ignostic

**WilliamBlue** · 05-13-2007, 04:15 AM

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ignostic

Has anyone seen this? Are some of us ignostic? Is it possible to be both? I am agnostic in that I still do not have any proof there is a God but if I were to define 'God' I would call it the creator of the Universe, but maybe that definition is not worth keeping?

Bill

jor.pandolfo · 05-15-2007, 10:18 PM

well, i think the first mistake is the fact that it's from urban dictionary.

**The An-Jel** · 05-16-2007, 01:42 PM

Labels Labels everyones wants to label everything like people wants to create an issue out of a problem.

skeptic griggsy · 05-21-2007, 03:27 AM

I find that the term God rests on a series of guesses about a mystery-God- surrounded by other mysteries parading as an explanation for a non-problem that Existence just is.God hides" our ignorance behind a theological fig leaf," and to further quote Keith Parsons:" Occult power wielded by a transcendent being in an inscrutable way for unfathomable purposes does not seem to be any sort of a good explanation." God is merely the uninformative tautology that God wills what He wills. God did it is merely the let it be of magic.

Gettin' In Tune · 07-27-2007, 01:23 AM

Ignosticism is an interesting concept. Perhaps this is one of the main reasons why I am skeptic about my deism and strengthening my agnosticism. Either way I am a non-theist and a freethinker.

The term "God" is not meaningful and another definition is needed before "God" can be discussed and scientifically tested. There are various alternative definitions for "God" (i.e. Force, Interconnectedness, Creation by Subtraction, Procreative energy, The Ground of Being, Transcedental Force, Transcendtal Inclusion, Unmanifest, etc).

All these definition can be discussed much more meaningfully than "God" based on reason and deduction, but they cannot be scientifically tested (yet or ever).

**Jayhawker Soule** · 07-27-2007, 05:02 AM

It seems only fitting to note that "ignostic" is a term coined by Rabbi Sherwin T, Wine, founder of Humanistic Judaism, who died last week in a tragic car accident in Morocco. My wife and I had the opportunity to meet and hear Rabbi Wine on a couple of occasions: he was a brilliant spoksman and visionary.

**WilliamBlue** · 07-28-2007, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhawker Soule

It seems only fitting to note that "ignostic" is a term coined by Rabbi Sherwin T, Wine, founder of Humanistic Judaism, who died last week in a tragic car accident in Morocco. My wife and I had the opportunity to meet and hear Rabbi Wine on a couple of occasions: he was a brilliant spoksman and visionary.

Interesting person and church from what the article describes. Couldn't find a link to the church though, do you have one?

**Jayhawker Soule** · 07-28-2007, 12:26 PM

see shj.org

skeptic griggsy · 08-07-2007, 05:01 PM

And another great humanist,Albert Ellis , died then also. I hope that agnostics will also be ignostics as no meaning for god would incline one to find it hard to believe in one and thus unsure of one at least.

marmalade · 10-17-2007, 10:45 PM

Ignosticism could be a useful term. I think that people believe they know more than they actually know(no matter what your belief or supposed lack of belief). Terms and labels are only as meaningful as they are understood. We're more than a bit limited in our understanding of the areas of spirituality, religion, perception, and reality.

Ignositicism may be the safest label to put on oneself, but it isn't necessarilly flattering. Claiming utter ignorance may be an act of humility and wisdom, or it could be the claim of the intellectually lazy. I can't imagine anyone literally living in absolute accordance of an ignostic view.