The An-Jel

As an agnostic I am not inclined to feel as most people do about "high energy" topics like a person wanting to die because they have some kind of disease or condition they don't want to deal with. Children as "inncocent", I consider a child as a human-type of animal that needs to be trained to use their mind effectively, etc. I can see no purpose in life yet except to encourage continued existence if the person deems it's worthwhile to continue on... I have a good time in life myself, I believe in actual love just like I believe in actual hate (and all emotions inbetween far and extreme.) I have experienced love and hate well I know I have come as close as it gets. While I make the effort to examine as objectively as I can others experiences and relate them to my own. I still feel a bit the alien (I don't mind it based that I am in a religious society still.) People are getting deeper and deeper into themselves and further lost as science progresses as I observe As an agnostic how do you feel trying to relate to the majority of society that has some form of belief on how the world works on a religious or faith based (or lack of) process?

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mister_lister

Sometimes I feel frustrated. There seems inordinate ammount of casual reasoning in people I encounter. I can understand it being the case, for I was basically a casual reasoner for most of my adult life and also quite religious for most of it as well. Once I shed most of my tendency to casually reason through issues a lot of things changed and inevitably I was no longer religious.

I am not an emotional person compared to most. Not given to anger or saddness. I am not really witty or easy to entertain. I feel for peoples plight, but I am not ultra-sympathetic or empathic. I am not stuffy or numb, I definitely have emotion and have experienced the spectrum, I just don't base decisions on emotional "feelings" (for the most part).

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jaej

The only emotion I readily demonstrate is anger. I'm not known for being overly kind to people, mostly because I view them as inferior to me. I don't like people much, and it causes me a lot of anger and frustration.

And yes. Another thing that bugs me is how completely people, especially young kids in church, believe what they are told without even thinking. You wouldn't believe how ignorant some of the kids a little bit younger than me are. Middle school and early high school. It blows my mind how people can live with such delusions.

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debdodd

In what way do you think other people are inferior?

haunted

I think I know what he's saying because I'm the same way. I look around at the people in the world and I see a lot of stupidity. That leads to a sort of loathing towards people who don't "get it" like I think I do. People are often spoon-fed their lives and decisions, and it angers me. It's difficult not to feel superior to such people. But being scorned all the time isn't good for anyone. The best thing you can do in life is to be pleasant and happy, effect people for the better. Everyone, including me and you, is ignorant in some form of life. You can't box someone up in judgement based on single observation.

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jaej

Yeah, pretty much.

Edit: Had I known this thread existed, I would have responded a month ago. sorry. lol

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lauraclay

I don't have a problem with people who don't get it. It's my way to think about things as I do. I kind of view religions as a way of thinking. It's my friends way to think about life in that mindset, so their religion naturally follows. It's funny, I have all the patience in the world for people. I can sit there with a kid and tell him 2+2=4 a thousand times, explain it 8 different ways until he gets it. But if my computer freezes up, it annoys the crap out of me. I can't get mad at people easily, especially not for something they believe. Anybody willing to put forth any effort into believing something earns my respect. And people who don't care, don't care. I don't care about Nascar. I'd hate for everyone who knows a lot about Nascar to get mad at me for not getting it.

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Neo

In my case, I don't feel angry at all but lonesome.

People tend to change topic or completely ignore you at times when the conversation seems to get relatively deeper. I understand it's easier to them that way. These "people" needs no rationalization of their "contradictions" simply because they have "no contradictions in life". How? They keep them in separate "boxes" and in each box is perfect "creation of God". They open each box according to the need. Just don't mix the dogs with the cats. That's why they close them if you attempt to. And those who attempt to, for them, are lunatics.

Believe me, in my whole life, I haven't met anyone otherwise. Can you imagine the loneliness? So, I have to look for my kind in this virtual world. Thanks, technology! After all, who can tell if the "reality" we all know is not another virtual world itself.

Reality or not, I spend most of my "conscious" time in it...It's coooold and lonely in here.... I wonder if Van Gogh had the same problem then...hmmmm

jaej

You should make friends with people like you, that you can have deep conversations with and they will accept what you say. It doesn't really work to talk to people who are so set in their ways that they don't want to hear anything different.

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debdodd

I just think calling someone inferior, implying you are superior, just because they are in an acceptance mode instead of questioning mode is quite unfair and sounds pompous.

If you encounter someone who is lets say mentally handicapped you don't think that you're superior you just think wow, that kid is doing great, he's sacking groceries at the store and he has Downs syndrome, that's really wonderful that he is working ... yada yada .... but when others are handicapped in other ways (ie believing in God without proof, not asking question about life, etc) you feel superior because they have their beliefs without proof?

So many people are always going be ostriches in life but that shouldn't make us think this way ... that's just arrogant .... maybe they are just slow learners or will never learn but I don't like the whole inferior/superior concept ... sounds to Aryan Nation to me ... but that's just my opinion.....

I like the way LC thinks.

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