Aaron

I am well familiar with the issue of not being able to relate to the vast majority of people I interact with. I find it annoying that I connot have any sort of in depth give and take converstion with anyone. So, yes, I feel the lonelyness too.

As far as the superior/inferior thing goes, I think we all get that feeling when we are confronted by an opposing view. I know you know full well that a theist views you as bieng as stupid and ignorant as you view him/her.

Agnosticism is a general philosophy that extends far beyond the confines of religeon. It is truely a lonesome place to be.

Knowing vs. Believing: If you know you belive, then go to a religeous forum. If you believe that you know, go to an atheist forum. If you want to know for sure what you belive then this is the place for you.

jaej

I'm not talking just about religion. I'm talking about the general ignorance of people, in all sorts of areas. People who think they know what they're talking about but they really have no idea, who persist in their thinking despite your best efforts to show them otherwise. I'm guilty of thinking I know what I'm talking about when I don't, but at least I have the sense to admit it.

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The An-Jel

Sheeple. Whatever created us did not make us equal. Genius aside, emotionally not equal either, sexually not equal. It's like two sides always battling. All of us have their strengths and their shortcomings. I think sometimes thats why we were made like this for... ape stuff you know. Other times I think the desire and despair of others is just annoying. I think selective breeding is a promising endeavor but it doesn't turn out like the individual likes but the Universe needs balance.

Makes me feel weird kinda sorta!

Incidently I thought this thread was kind of weird because in order to become objective from the society today and the conformations we must perform to fit in. The priorities of humans have been manipulated in towards two extremes... bad me and good me. Me, me, me. I found myself taking an objective view my emotional perceptions changed... not on a basic level but on a societal level. I have to define the economic, religious, and political levels and observe these phenomenon to decypher what applies to reality. To separate myself and find my relation to reality. Imagine creating a craft that can travel into space and facing obstacles that say 'Man you can do this and that but not this' because the Universe did not design it that way. Well society in their Earth-bound discovery said we could, society in their Earth-bound religious political view said we could. Adaption is the key with discovering the Truth.

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jaej

Adapt and evolve. Everything is perception. How you see the world around you influences directly the way you are seen, and in turn the way you act.

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The An-Jel

I thought thats the way you do it and thats the way I act.

Thats a society way of looking at things. I don't see them that way. Look beyond the box your in.

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Aaron

Read my last post again and you'll se that I am not talking about religeon either. Agnosticism is a philosophy of life in general. Agnosticism is an open minded, inquisitive perception of our existence. Free thinking.

As far as ignorance goes, I feel your pain. People don't like to be wrong, they want to be right. What drives me crazy is that the majority of people can't see that we are all ignorant.

Neo

And they would say "If we are all ignorant, then why not just "follow" the majority of us?".

Seriously, why don't we? I'd like to know your reasons, guys...

debdodd

I sense that there are a few people on this thread who are not well rounded. Why is it that you feel you have to defend your beliefs or your thoughts with other people in the world? so what ... you may be book smarter than a lot of people but are you happier? Who made it your crusade to enlighten those "ignorant" around you? You sound smug, arrogant, condescending, proud,disdainful, haughty, supercilious and just insultingly contemptuous of your fellow man. Explains many of you being lonely or alone.

Why aren't you out on a Saturday night with like minded friends? Oh, you only have a few friends .... the only true mental exercise you get is on this forum .... come on .... you are hermits hiding in your houses talking in cyber space with other "acceptable" intelligent people .... this make me think it might be you guys who are inferior to those you condemn.

When you get ready to die will you reflect back and say Ahhhhh, I wish I would have ...... done what ever ..... but instead I spent all my time in pursuit of an answer(s). I can't imagine that it's because you guys look like trolls but that your social skills are lacking and you put on this front of intellectual superiority, of disdain for others, when in fact you can't interact with mainstream people. You are as inflexible as you often accuse them of being, so what if they are uninformed? Would you rather be on line talking about the general ignorance of people or would you rather go out and interact face to face with like minded people. Is it because this is anonymous? You can hide behind your printed world and not have to deal with people? I personally believe it's because many of you are afraid or intimidated with people and have no patience with people who will not accept being enlightened by you. If you have poor social skills and are a genius ... big deal .... I'd rather be around someone with 10 fewer points on their IQ than with the smart person who can't have fun if they are not discussing "issues".

So let me ask this question .... how many of you superior people have a partner?.... a happy relationship? .... now here's a question to ask yourself, I don't want you to answer on this thread but ask yourself ... when is the last time you got laid? ... here's another to ask yourself and not answer here when is the last time you kissed someone with passion?

Follow your bliss is what Og says is the way to go ... have a life ... or better yet .. get a life. You can't possibly believe that there is no one around that you can relate to or have fun with. When is the last time any of you single people had a date? Like I said, you guys are mostly hermits ... you talk about life and living but you have no concept about how to actually live a blissful life. A couple of you hide behind this aura of superiority and the only arena in which you are superior is your brain ... I've also heard the expression ... ignorance is bliss ..... so perhaps those you believe ignorant are better off. I don't know if it's true but it's not our responsibility to teach the world to ask "the big questions".

I don't say any of this to be mean, I've said this same thing in PM's to the ones in this forum who are my cyber friends .... get out of the house and experience life. I see where some of you say you are lonely ... I wonder why? If all you do is talk esoteric to those you interact with .... I can see why you are not only lonely but alone. Some of you have even chased away those who have loved you or you loved them because of the way you interact socially. I've heard all this I'd rather be alone crap than have someone who isn't (fit in whatever descriptive adjective you choose) just to be with someone. I'll bet every single one of you would rather be with someone you love, not like a famile love, but a passionate one, than be reading what I write. There has to be a few of you who would rather be snuggled up on the sofa with someone you love .... but you're not. Why is it you choose to be alone and therefore lonely? You don't sound that intelligent to me. I rather pity those that are alone because they are misfits.

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Are You Lonely debdodd?

Ok leaving that alone. Yep I have interacted with many many people and have questioned many many people. I have been in Love truly only once and I remember and liked really only that one time. I even escorted her back to her own country where we engaged in a fun and inexpensive vacation with a connection she had with various hotels, motels, and resorts. I have had one night stands and lengthy unpleasurable relationships that consisted of sex, money, and an insurrmountable measure of "party favors." I conclude that I have walked the walk and the better part of valor would be to examine the human condition because I'll tell you... most times it isn't worth it and keep your mind intact. Go surfing men... go surf parties... rich poor it all exists the same but only in degrees. If you feel people are just ignorant for ignorance sake then you go play kissy face with facists and think about your vagina as the power to everything. Some women... I have encountered want something real. I as a man want something real. This is a weird world we live in because the people that superpose a reality onto it don't have a clue and don't want one. Mind you that anyone who unites the world and creates a world government is the Anti-Christ when it is people who act like heroes in their own stereotypical world are the most worthless of us.

Live for your ego and genitalia but don't live with the unexamined because you don't know what your walking into. Most women I meet fall into this facade.

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debdodd

Hell no I'm not lonely ... nor am I alone. My life is more full than I want it to be at times. I would love to be lonely for about two weeks straight!!!

vagina with power ...... hmmmmmm, I'm not going to even touch that one .... it would be way to easy to exploit and explore that train of thought!!!

An-jel: what facade are you talking about?

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