Cathy Jean Mockwitz

"Is true discussion possible? If you are into an other individual's true discussion, and he or she, is into your true discussion, I suppose... that...it is possible. However, in time of war, chaos, confusion, impoverishment reaping and strife...such as this time... we are far beyond any type or form of any true, decent, or genuine discussion. This is war...regardless of what ever yoga, supportive, therapeutic and discussional church or political group...or congregation...that you belong to, or that anyone of you war
loving individuals...have psycho-dramatized, and /or have caused to be put into place...in order to determine if there is any real room for any so called compromise and/or discussion."

"The very fact, that war has been launched and ignited...and continues to be launched, and ignited against anyone of us...is proof, that true discussion...ended long, long ago. We could care less, if an individual slobbers a sickening sweet love tune, or a sanctified religious melody. Anyone of us can croon, "I Love You!" or say, "Thank you so much for your gentility, grace, and immaculate generosity." Who really cares what slimey words, drip from your rabbonic mouths, or are scribbled onto your pretty little papers. It is ever so lovely and sweet...that you actually believe that you are our "Friends" and that we are your "Friends." Continue on with your fantasmic...delusional belief system. Fall on the floor, have a convulsion or two...pee your pants, and as you speak in your tribal tongues, shout, "We believe!...We believe!"

"By your actual deeds, misdeeds, actions, and/or non-action(complacency and infidelity)...you have in fact, directly, and/or non directly launched war against us, and our true and genuine allies. The outcome of your destructive, parsimonious, debasing, thieving, molesting, raping, poisoning and murdering agenda...is exactly what you and your counterparts and cronies...have had in your filthy, perverted, and cowardly hearts from the beginning. This is what each and every one of you have in truth wanted all along. Are you still pleased with what you and yours...have worked so long and hard to con-create? How very "pleasing" to see and hear that you are now doing your "homework" assignments...and that you are keeping up with your true criminal dialogue...and discussional groups...as we continue to recognize, and remember...that you and your so called people...have become exactly as you have preprogrammed and reprogrammed yourselves and each other to be. Inhumanoids. Moronic and idiotic robots. Unfeeling and uncaring machines. No real, actual, creative, and/or intellectual design, beneficial intelligence, or good useful and practical content among any one of you, yeoman. Everything about you is a complete and utter falsification."

"In all truth...it is by the way you actually live your life...and how you dictate, and/or allow, influence, encourage finance, and/or force, another, or other individuals, to actually live their lives...wherein your true religion...comes into play...and is in fact and deed revealed. All of your very own evidence, is now stacked against you...for you are in fact atheists...anarchists. Deviant, perverse, and criminally minded individuals, who encourage and demand as much gray as possible, in order that there is no established right(god/good)...or recognized wrong(deviation, perversion/crime) or proper and just pattern of behavior, or positive law of conduct, in relationship, to that which is genuine true, upright, and good...or in relationship, to that which is in fact demeaning, degrading, impoverishing, plunderous, toxic, murderous and is, in act, fact and deed...very, very evil. As each and everyone of you deviant and false people know...every criminal act, or deed...is possible within this scope...and within this type and form of framework. These are The Priories of Scion...and their lying Mafioso ideals...and the Mafioso Landlords...who have stolen, and plundered all that is good and just, and used and applied these things, these inventions, these very people for an entirely wicked and criminal purpose."

"My true position ...and the true position of each and everyone of my own people, is this. Either, you are one of us, or each and everyone of you deviant bastards(male and female...young and old, etc) are on a crash course to your final demise and execution. As to what religion you profess...or which jewdicing(Lets jew and bargain them down...in their confused and desperate state...as we further degrade, and humiliate, sinking them deeper down in agony and despair as we arrest and divest each and everyone of the stewage class...of their proper and dignified right to exist in true morality and justice...prosperity, health, and genuine stability and peace...as we make another enslaving deal.) in our prearranged political ball parks, sports stadiums, golf courses, mob law courts and brutal medical establishments, false and pretty churches, their embankment temples and false courts...used as indoctrination, recruiting and tithing/tax collection centers...which were long ago bought and paid for...under unlawful threat, duress, coercion and oppression of slaves(usary) hard earned and plundered health, prosperity, sanity, security, happiness...in fact...their entire lives."

"Do we have any respect for even one of you? No! Do we have any sympathies...with anyone of you...your wicked plans...or your filthy dilemmas? No! Do we despise evil, wickedness, lawlessness, ill justice, immorality, and unrighteousness? Yes! Do you hold out your filthy palms...in order to gain from the just prosperity...and/or the gain of oppressions...and are therefore capitalists and reapers?Yes! Do we despise the engineers, and/or the doers and servers...the directors, and actors of crime and that which is actually and factually evil? Yes! Do we despise cowards, infidels, and traitors, or those who would sanction, support or align themselves with any individuals who do not stand up and protect helpless innocence...and instead use, manipulate, desecrate, mar, abuse, and exploit these sacred individuals?Yes! Do you do all of these things and more? Yes? Do we despise and loathe you? Yes. Do you deserve our hate and condemnation? Yes! Yes! Yes!"

"Have we divinely and incredibly educated ourselves and our allies...from before the foundations of this world...in true intelligence, and in the positive and elegant design of our supernatural ancestry... and on all things, places and people, who are on-par super normal/supernal? Yes! Are we extra-ordinarily gifted...with what powers, are true genuine and good...and are therefore, of our godly/goodly and just sacred ancestral realms, and are therefore on par equilibrium, with atonal harmony, genuine balance, proper prudence, sincere judgment, and true and actual justice? Yes! Do we do
these things, and continue to do these things, in order that each and every truly innocent and brutalized individual...who has had to endure, having the private, and sacred temples of his or her mind, body, spirit, and/or soul violated, and desecrated...by any one of you most monstrous infidels ...will have a place and a stand among us and our correctional
judgment, lawful justice, and perfect righteousness? Yes! Are we afraid to "die" and momentarily exit the scene? No! Will several other divine, sacred and supernal individuals, rise up and stand in our place momentarily...while we are having our little nap, changing vessels, and a simple and short "Rest In Peace? Yes!"

"Do you actually and factually believe, in your sluggishly programmed, moronicly, yeomanistic mind...that there could ever be any room for any truthful, and genuine discussion between anyone of us and between any one of you? If you do...then I suppose...that you will also believe us, while we are kissing you on the lips, and sleeping by your side, that we actually have any true love and respect for any one of you...and that our hearts are really yours...and your Mafia Establishments of Occultic Religion...and your Lawless Alcaidian Jurisdictions and your Political Gaming Courts...and your Deviant Hospitality Programs. Can you imagine how we love, honor, and sustain each and everyone of you, in our hearts, minds, body's and souls, as we witness in horror what you con men(male and female) have done...and are in fact at present...(in the moment)are doing to our sacred and divine...innocent and helpless Grandparents, Mothers, Fathers, Brothers, Sisters, Aunts, Uncles, Nieces, Nephews, Cousins, Children, and Grandchildren...not to mention the immoral, illegal, and lawless things which you are doing unto each and everyone of us?"...(Part 1)

Most sincerely,
Cathy Jean Mockwitz(Romanovae'***Da La Vinciente')

Cathy Jean Mockwitz

Part 2....
"Do you still think that we can all just pretend, that what has happened and that what is happening at present...is not in act and deed happening as we speak...and that we can all simply shake hands, kiss and make up, have a true and genuine discussion...as you bring your atheistic...anarchal...jew-gyptian... anti-Christ moderators, blood sucking lawyers, and their leaching and quacking...physicians, brain dead scientists, and intoxicated judges...along with whatever black marketing deal and corn meal makers...that you have in your stinky...goat(negotiable instrument)cheese, bologne peddling nap sack of Mafioso maritime pursuits?" Did you in the past, and do you at present still believe that we would or that we will ever forget...or that we at present will simply ignore the Semitic(Premeditated Criminal Schemes and Intrigues)and the abusive, immoral, unjust acts and deeds...and that like some magical aura, they will simply disappear, from our hearts, minds, bodies, spirits, and souls...in fact from our entire DNA...and vast memory system...that can never...ever be completely erased? Do you still believe that true love conquers all...when you have no concept, of that fidelity, devotion honesty, caring, compassion, sincerity, understanding and grace...and that it is possible that this false life...that you have premeditatedly ordained and/or sustained, established, and have forced all innocent to partake of...and which we now know and recognize as murderous death...could or would...have no consequences unto you and your deviant Mafioso Lovers...and their Priories of Scionasticaism and their Zions/Communes...Social Communism....Reservationism...Apartheid Etc.?"

"But then those of you who have rested your delusionary, narcissistic, egotistical, arrogant, immoral and criminal minds in this political ball playing arena of lustful ballparks, which have been strategically placed within, your grotesquely sweet fantasy lands...of deception, fraud, money laundering, counterfeiting, embezzlements and war lording...also believe that slaves find abduction, rape, pornography, drugs, perversion, debasement, humiliation, shame, and certain forms and manners of enslavement beautiful and romantic. For those of us who have seen and experienced our own vitality and
strength, and the vitality and strength of our beautiful, creative, prosperous and upright families...whither away, in deepest humiliation...poverty, neglect and despair...we do not find any one of you...irresistibly handsome, lovely, humorous, and or witty...in fact we desperately work and strive to the best of our ability...to warn others of who and what you are...and to put a final end...to your reign of absolute fear, shame, horror, treachery, poverty, perversion, sickness, toxicity...and living death."

"Oh my...how can we possibly live, with out your abuse...plunder, rampage, reaping, sicknesses, poverty, immorality, loneliness, perversion, lawlessness and con-secrated death sentences? But then maybe...we can all just sit down...to a happy cup of coffee, or tea...have a piece of pie, smiling ever so sweetly, as we hold hands, embrace each other,
as we continue to be desecrated, brutalized, molested, reaped and raped, and crucified...in your arms...under your so called authority and protection...in your vast and fortified array, of occultic love, perversion, disgusting vows...and lies. Do not forget to spread the manure, fertilizer, and of course, the good new. Justice died...and continues...to die, for the sins of all inhuman kind...as all inhuman kind rapes, reaps, capitalizes, plunders, impoverishes, intoxicates, poisons,wrongly rules, and neglects, the stewage class slaves, in all Mafioso Lands, as their Mafioso Landlords... Occulticly Deviant, Secretive and Fraudulent Priests, Fathers, Bishops, Laymen...and the like, along with their Kingpins/Presidantes, Alcaidian Governors, and Mob Law Legislatures...and all of their Occultic Ill-luminautical War Lords...continue to remain as Saviors and Keepers, of the sanctified walking death sentence...honoring, resurrecting, sanctifying and sustaining the remnants, strings and theocracy of their one true love...The Deviant, Holocaustic, Barbaric, and Monstrous Priories of Scion/Zion...The Political Bodies and Gambling Arenas of The International Bankers."

Most sincerely,
Cathy Jean Mockwitz(Romanovae'***Da La Vinciente')

Lanya

Where's the patience?



Where's the tact?

Astreja

Good questions, Lanya. (And welcome to the forum!)

Personally, I find it very hard to have a discussion with a person who communicates by cutting and pasting huge pre-written monologues onto a forum thread.

Even harder when that monologue has nothing whatsoever to do with the theme of the forum (in this particular case, "What is an Agnostic"?)

Harder still when the poster in question hides behind the persona of a mythical extraterrestrial and "channels" sundry insults at us. In quotation marks, no less.

So, in this particular case, don't get your hopes up. But shall we discuss 'discussion' nonetheless? Perhaps we can even do so in the context of agnosticism...

debdodd

Very good observation Astreja!

Maybe if we ignore her she'll go away? Nah, she probably just likes a soap box to stand upon and spout off her rhetoric and to see her words in print ....

I still vote isolation and ignore .... I don't believe she is open to discussion .... more like she is spoiling for a fight of words with someone .....


Also welcome to Lanya!

__________________
"Ubi dubium ibi libertas."

"We are all lone souls. It pays to know humility, lest the delusion of control, of mastery, overwhelms. And indeed, we seem a species prone to that delusion, again and ever again ....."

Cathy Jean Mockwitz

Astreja:

From what I understand...an agnostic...is someone who does not believe that a concept...a law...a history...a religion...an individual...a nation...a people...a currency...a scientific principle etc. are real...with out absolute evidence...and complete proof. I am here to prove that you are not who and what you say that you are. I have no faith in the ideals of false and immoral individuals...whether they be male or female. Skin color...nationality...berth rank...or social status...mean nothing to me. I truly believe that you are of the lost tribes...and are therefore completely alien...according to my scientific research...and the research of those who came before me. Contrary to your reel to reel world...aliens are not like the creatures portrayed by those who are superstitious of such. You have so little comprehension of sacred and divine truth. That which you embrace is contrary to logic and reason. You are unbalanced...and yet...you convince each other that you have the wisdom to sit on thrones. Thrones that do not exist in a real world...only in the realms of Phantoms and Fantasy. Is it possible that alien jurisdictions have been conning The Descendants of Righteousness for several thousands of years? For me...I demand proof that individuals are the offspring of goodness and righteousness...just as you demand proof that there is a power strong enough to destroy that which is not righteous. A power that is called God...or Genuine Justice.

Also. Because you have been offended by my writings...and my quotation marks...I will do my best to stop using them on this forum. Secondly...I have been asked to stop addressing individuals in a condescending manner. Again...I will do my best to follow this wish. As I have stated in the past...I do not desire conflict with you. It is not desirous ...or necessary for me to engage in destructive dialogue with you or with others. Perhaps...you and others on this forum could do the same for me?

Cathy

debdodd

how extremely odd that you would say this because you've done a damned fine job of condescending destructive dialogue in your postings .... respectfully, don't lob your vehement verbiage over the net on this forum and expect anyone not to bounce it back to you .... you'll get no quarter here unless you earn it or deserve it and nothing thus far has shown that you should be cut any slack ....

__________________
"Ubi dubium ibi libertas."

"We are all lone souls. It pays to know humility, lest the delusion of control, of mastery, overwhelms. And indeed, we seem a species prone to that delusion, again and ever again ....."

Astreja

Perhaps. But first, may I point out these quotes for your consideration:
Why are you so adamant in trying to prove things about -us-?

That is your belief. I'm okay with you stating beliefs as such, although I may not share many of them.

Here's where problems start. The context implies that you do, in fact, have knowledge that we allegedly lack, and this can be seen as condescending. At this point, actual data has to come into play to support assertions.