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08-04-2007, 07:29 PM
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| What is an Agnostic God? What is an “Agnostic God”? Agnostics arrive at the fence with respect to “God”. There seems to be a lack of debate on what an “agnostic god” is and is not. Of course it will be different for everyone, but I am curious and just want to spark a friendly debate.
What type of an “Agnostic God” do you arrive at the fence? Is it the Judeo-Christian God, Allah, a transcendental creator, ground of being, source of origin, etc? I
What type of characteristics do agnostics give “god”? Is “god” divine, intelligent, intervening, merciful, cruel, omniscient, omnipotent, etc?
In essence, what types of “gods” bring agnostics to the fence?
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08-04-2007, 07:37 PM
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| You must have us confused with some nut job wacko cult.
Agnosticisim is the belief that we can neither prove nor disprove the existence of a deity. It has nothing to do with believing in an "agnostic god".
I personally believe that if their is a God it could be anything, be it extra-terrestrial or even outside of our dimension. But most certainly not the christian God, or Muslim Allah.
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08-04-2007, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by George You must have us confused with some nut job wacko cult. | Huh? Is this sarcasm? If not, then I am happy to be apart of you nut job wacko cult Quote: |
Agnosticisim is the belief that we can neither prove nor disprove the existence of a deity. It has nothing to do with believing in an "agnostic god".
| This is a languange barrier. I did not know how else to describe an "agnostic god". Perhaps a diety is better, but a diety implies a supreme being, so that is why I used "agnostic god". I am cautious in describing "god" as a diety or supreme being. Quote: |
I personally believe that if their is a God it could be anything, be it extra-terrestrial or even outside of our dimension. But most certainly not the christian God, or Muslim Allah.
| Therefore, you are more atheist than agnostic when it concerns the judeo-christian-muslim god. I am too. Therefore, there are more sensible definitions of "god" than others.
What type of "god/diety" brings you to the fence? Obvsiously, it is not the judeo-christian-muslim god. It is either extra-teresstial or an outside dimensional diety or supreme being?
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08-04-2007, 08:32 PM
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| The intent of this thread is to be a philosophical/metaphysical debate about "god" where neither beliefs are attacked nor imposed upon, but cultivated.
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08-04-2007, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Gettin' In Tune The intent of this thread is to be a philosophical/metaphysical debate about "god" where neither beliefs are attacked nor imposed upon, but cultivated. | Huh? Well what do you think? You seem so panic stricken with the way you post. What do you, in your beliefs, really know?
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08-04-2007, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by The An-Jel Quote:
Originally Posted by Gettin' In Tune The intent of this thread is to be a philosophical/metaphysical debate about "god" where neither beliefs are attacked nor imposed upon, but cultivated. | Huh? Well what do you think? You seem so panic stricken with the way you post. What do you, in your beliefs, really know? |
Hmm..panic stricken??? really???
Huh?
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| An agnostic arrives at the fence out of a certain conception of god. What is your conception of god? I am not truly agnostic, but I will NOT share out of panic and confusion. I will share my conception of god out of reason and nature. I will do so with composure, sensibility, and skepticism. I will not proceed to know god with panic, fear, or dogma.
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08-04-2007, 09:46 PM
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| Again, what "god" do you arrive at the fence?
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What is an “Agnostic God”? Agnostics arrive at the fence with respect to “God”. There seems to be a lack of debate on what an “agnostic god” is and is not. Of course it will be different for everyone, but I am curious and just want to spark a friendly debate.
| There seems to be a bit of confusion about your question. Tell me if I'm wrong but I believe your asking exactly what our concept of god is when we say: Agnosticism is the belief that we can neither prove nor disprove the existence of a god. In this case, I think your wrong that we will all answer differently. Generally speaking we mean god as in a fuzzy logic category. You know, any god, not a specific god with any specific properties. I think we all know that there are some specific gods that can be disproved. However, believers ultimately feel free to alter their conception of god on the fly and continue to maintain their belief; so even specific gods are fuzzy conceptions. |
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08-05-2007, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Gettin' In Tune An agnostic arrives at the fence out of a certain conception of god. | Stop embarrassing yourself and read Huxley. |
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