nanners86

It seems that everyday my b/f and I are in a debate about athiesm vs. agnosticism. He tells me that I am an athiest, mabey I am. I am confused. I just think this... I am not sure that there is a god or what have you and I don't think it will ever be proven either way. But then when I am asked if I believe in god my direct answer isn't, "I don't know" but "No". I am finding that I am very angry because I am judged not only by someone who doesn't believe in god (someone who one would think would support me because we feel very similar on the subject) and I am judged by those who do believe in god. It seems as if everyone thinks I am going thru a phase and I will come to their side a I grow. I have been a agnostic sense I was 16, I think this is all I will ever be. i just feel a lack of support and sometimes I feel alone.

Grant

thats no fun

that reminds me of my situation... except the opposite, lol.... nobody really cares around here so my morals are typically against theirs...

just hang in there and keep looking! personally, i dont see any support for atheism.... thats relfected in my posts (and support for it as well)

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LilOne1989

I would just blow the other people off (harder than it sounds I know) and work more on getting to know yourself completely. It sounds like you got lots of people yelling at you from different directions all trying to push their ideas of right and wrong on you instead of letting you choose your own path. If it was me I would tell all of them to back the f*** off and leave me alone, of course I already did that to several people in my life.

George

Couple quick points,

1) Tell anyone that wants you to believe or not believe in God to prove it. That goes for atheists or theists. Fact is you are letting them put the burden of proof on you when it really should be on them.

2) Tell your boyfriend to join this forum. I'd love to debate whether I'm an atheist or not

3) It's partly your fault. You tell people "No" you don't believe in God. So what do you expect them to think?

You don't have to answer the God question with "I don't know". That just invites people to try and convert you be they theists or atheists. You need to state clearly "I believe that you can neither prove nor disprove the existance of God". If you really must use the I don't know wanswer you should qualify it by saying I don't know and I don't believe anyone does.

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Justin

One thing is, some people believe that you have to be either a theist/supernaturalist or an atheist. So, for atheists who believe along these lines (such as George Smith), you may call yourself an agnostic, but any "lack of belief in God" automatically makes you an atheist. They believe that the "default" for mankind is atheism, so if you don't actually commit to a specific God/gods, then you are an atheist. The issue is further complicated for agnostics by the fact that most of us live like atheists, even if philosophically we are agnostic. Fwiw, I'd say don't worry about it. In the end, it's just a label. Label's aren't all bad, but if they are causing more harm than good, why let them worry you? Like was already said, just focus on what you believe, that's all that's important.

mtatum4496

I find a lot of value in what Justin and George said. Too many people want to see things in black and white. It just ain't so all the time.

But the fact that people want to fit you in a box of "do you" or "don't you" is their problem. You do not owe anyone an excuse for the opinions you hold. If they want to share with you why they think as they do - and you are interested in hearing what they have to day - that is fine. If they wish to hear what you think and can really listen to you, fine. But you do not have to prove anything to anyone.

LarryG1978

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dysfunctional

I totally agree with george justin and mtatum, you really don;t need to prove anything to anyone. You are who you are and you believe what you believe. When you are judging anyone don't let anyone judge you or tell you what to do.
As far as i see religious is being judgemental coz all the time you are trying to prove another religion wrong, at least we don't do that and we don;t force out beliefs on others

George

Good points.

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}SoC{Sumguy

if any Christian tries to judge you, you should quote a few of the verses in the bible about not judging others.

if they are intelligent at all, they will realize their mistake.

as for the pressure from Athiests, just tell them bluntly not to push you and that yo will make up your mind on your own.

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