Global warming

dysfunctional · 01-05-2007, 02:16 PM

I live in New York and temperature right now is 10-20 degrees above what it should be at this time of year , plus the Glaciers melting is kinda making me think about global warming? ANY THOUGHTS, because T think this a very important issue.

mark71 · 06-02-2007, 06:15 AM

yes imediatl;y go and buy a boat...or you will drown...the navy is busy and won't save you...

Aaron · 06-02-2007, 08:38 PM

The earth's climate is not a constant. It changes quite frequently in geological terms. The Glacial melting may indicate a warming trend but I wouldn't consider the current above average temperatures as any sort of indicator - a few short weeks ago we were suffering through an exceptionally cold spring.

The idea that the earths human population is causing global warming is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Mass hysteria about global warming is the crowning achievement of the sensational news media.

I'm sure we'll wipe ourselves out sooner of later but I don't think it'll be a result of the weather

bobleplask · 12-09-2007, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron

The earth's climate is not a constant. It changes quite frequently in geological terms. The Glacial melting may indicate a warming trend but I wouldn't consider the current above average temperatures as any sort of indicator - a few short weeks ago we were suffering through an exceptionally cold spring.

The idea that the earths human population is causing global warming is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Mass hysteria about global warming is the crowning achievement of the sensational news media.

I'm sure we'll wipe ourselves out sooner of later but I don't think it'll be a result of the weather

So from very cold to very hot in just a few short weeks is normal and has always been where you live?

I think you might have heard too few ideas if this is your number one on "list of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard". Sure, it sells a few newspapers every now and then, but does that mean it's not true?

If you put on a heater inside a room, it produces energy which helps warm the room it's in. Is it therefor illogical to think that if you increase the use of energy in the world that it would warm it up?

Aaron · 12-09-2007, 07:44 PM

Before you start this debate, make sure you have educated yourself in the history of the earths climactic changes. Yes the climate has been known to change abruptly and unpredictably. A good place to start would be how climate change erraticated the thriving Viking civilization.

Oh, and don't forget the ice age and the fact that it came and went. The earth's climate isn't stable. It never has been and never will be.

Am I understanding you correctly bobleplask? I think you need to better understand the theory of how global warming actually works before you start arguing for it. The "heater in a room" analogy doesn't work.

bobleplask · 12-09-2007, 10:19 PM

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Before you start this debate, make sure you have educated yourself in the history of the earths climactic changes. Yes the climate has been known to change abruptly and unpredictably. A good place to start would be how climate change erraticated the thriving Viking civilization.

The climate? Christianity\crusades, civil wars and rise of other European states had nothing to do with it? I would be interested in reading about it. But I don't think it's right to say it became eradicated. They just stopped bashing every other country they could find and started bashing each other to make many small kingdoms into one big.

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Oh, and don't forget the ice age and the fact that it came and went. The earth's climate isn't stable. It never has been and never will be.

I agree with you here. The thing is that from what I understand we speed up this process. We can probably never outrun it (unless we find some other way to die first), but prolonging it should be possible.

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Am I understanding you correctly bobleplask? I think you need to better understand the theory of how global warming actually works before you start arguing for it. The "heater in a room" analogy doesn't work.

"The heater in a room" analogy was self-composed and might not make sense according to studies conducted. However.. do you really believe that a increase in use of energy has no effect on the planet at all? If so, why? Does not everything have a cause and effect?

I am sorry if I come of uneducated in this matter and I am to be honest.

These things convince me though:

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The global average air temperature near the Earth's surface rose 0.74 ± 0.18 °C (1.33 ± 0.32 °F) during the last 100 years. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) concludes, "most of the observed increase in globally averaged temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations" via the greenhouse effect. Natural phenomena such as solar variation combined with volcanoes probably had a small warming effect from pre-industrial times to 1950 and a small cooling effect from 1950 onward.These basic conclusions have been endorsed by at least 30 scientific societies and academies of science, including all of the national academies of science of the major industrialized countries. While individual scientists have voiced disagreement with some of the main conclusions of the IPCC, the overwhelming majority of scientists working on climate change are in agreement with them.