to_hobbes

Every so often, I just tune out and not visit agnostics forum. This past week, I have been taking care of a stack of paperwork (for foreign residence in Japan) and also running tests on my software.

In the 7 days or so that I wasn't here, this "Cathy Jean Mockwitz" shows up, started some 16 threads, posting an average of about 4 replies per thread over a period of a week, in all averaging 8 or 9 posts per day.

The sheer volume of text output by this person was incredible, as she was very creative about using very abstract words in unusual ways in order to accuse members of this forum of... something. I don't even know what she was talking about.

It's been a while since we have had someone like her join this forum. I wouldn't even call her a Christian, the way she was talking. I would guess she was a member of the Branch Davidians cult or something like that.

She isn't banned yet, but her last post was something about "don't talk to me anymore", which was three days ago. If she comes back, it might be best for people to just ignore her.

I always have to remind myself "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything." But to Og, I should say well done! I thought the replies you made to that person were polite yet stern, and also did well to ask the right questions.

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Og

It was wild. I googled bits of her posts and couldn't find any other places where she had copied and pasted them on the internet. It was a wild experience to have someone invest so much energy in us in such a negative and focused manner and then disappear

The internet (humanity) is a wild thing.

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to_hobbes

Yeah, I used to think that religion makes people crazy, rather than actually helping them...

...and I still think that. This Cathy character did not help alleviate that perception.

The way I see it, when take your faith seriously, the faith determines what you really are, and none of your thoughts are your own anymore. Some people would say that people simply choose the company of those who think like themselves. But religion does not seem that way to me. It's more like you become assimilated into a Borg-ish collective, and you have to speak what they tell you to speak and do what they tell you to do.

What's really funny (so funny that it actually isn't) is that the religious crowd would accuse members of this forum of being the mind-controlled Borg-like people, and call themselves the free thinkers.

Well, I guess now on the forum we have a nice, big, fresh, steaming pile of this Borg mind excrement. We may be able to use it in a scientific analysis or something.

(Maybe I am being a bit too mean here )

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to_hobbes,
I think we found something we can 100% agree on. We came close to 100% a few times, but I think this is it.

Can anyone here who has read and/or participated in her threads sum up Cathy Jean Mockwitz? As hobbes mentioned, there is a lot of text she wrote and I do not care to pore over it all (maybe suffer through reading it all is a more accurate sentiment). Does she subscribe to a particular philosophical and/or religious belief or was her writing merely a bunch of random, lengthy pseudo philosophical ramblings? One thing is for sure, she is definitely a "chatty Cathy"!

Where is Noetic_Center when you need him?? He should have been replying to her. Paging Noetic_center, please shed some light on this enigma that is Cathy Jean Mockwitz! If noetic_center is unavailable, Im sure MobileDigit aka "the web" can shed some light if he is still lurking hereabouts.

to_hobbes

Yeah, I don't ever understand Noetic_center's points of view, but that person is also very chatty. That may have made for some very amusing (and extraordinarily lengthy) discussions.

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Astreja

Well, I was in the thick of it for a couple of days and will attempt to do a précis.

• Overall presentation: "Channeling" of some extraterrestrial being(s).
• Initially pretending to "learn" about humans and their odd ways, yet spouting pages and pages of conspiracy-theory garble with a blatantly anti-Semitic tone.
• Alluded to a now-dead brother who was apparently a very nasty person.
• Frequent bad puns.
• Moments of lucidity and calm in the madness.

In this case, I would not rule out chronic mental disorder caused by familial abuse. Please, Cathy, if you're reading this... Talk to your family doctor and get a referral to someone who can assess you for treatable conditions such as bipolar disorder or set you up with a counsellor who can hear your story and help you deal with it. Posting rants on the Internet may be cathartic, but it won't fix anything.

Disclaimer: I am not a doctor or professional psychologist, but am experienced in "Something's terribly wrong here..."

duck

I did see that she claimed to be an agnostic, but most were (in my mind) highly atheistic rants that challenged almost every institution as having some level of conspiracy attached to it. I also got the anti-semitic parts pretty heavily and was thinking along the same lines as Astreja.

However, every time we asked or challenged her to support her claims were answered with complaints of being mean to her.

Those were the rantings of a largely disturbed mind that needs help. I find her experience and tenure here very sad in that she is a person that needs help and isn't trying to find it.

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Og

Hey, as I was reading through this thread, Cathy Jean was viewing it as well. Care to participate in an analysis of your behavior Cath?

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debdodd

only a couple of things I have to say about her opalescent crabbiness is that

a) she did provide some entertainment for a couple of days .....
b) she did exhibit multiple signs of mental illness
c) there is no way she way going to get any mental health evaluation


her thought processes were too convoluted and her "messages" were all over the place.

Do you guys remember the other person we had on here that was similar ... cherrysmiles ... they both believed that they were the aggrieved party in the whole ordeal and never took responsibility that they had "baited" others to have verbal sparring matches with them.

I can't claim that I am extraordinarily proud of the way I digressed into having a verbal "smack down" with her ... but on the other hand she brought much of it onto herself ...

I thought she had left forum but acording to Og's post above she is lurking in the background ... I don't think she is ready to come back just yet but we'll see .....

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duck

And I wasn't the perfect gentleman in a couple of my posts with her.

Okay, I ed way too much.

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