The Global Consciousness Project - Page 2

comacausey · 01-02-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by to_hobbes

Ok WilliamBlue, I just got done reading this explanation and I think you and I are both wrong.

Experiments have been performed, but they have nothing to do with random numbers predicting the global events. It has to do with, if everyone is thinking the same kinds of thoughts at the same time, does this change the behavior of a quantum random number generator.

Now this is interesting. I think the results imply that the human mind emits energy waves in certain patterns, and that the patterns emitted have a net effect on the environment, enough so to influence tiny quantum events. In other words, when lots of people think the same thing, noticable energy patterns emerge.

Now, lets say for example, that a concrete mathematic theory was formed that allowed us to know exactly what a large group of people were thinking if they were all thinking the same thing at the same time. This would be useful, for exapmle, if the military could station 'eggs' around Iraq and then look for shifts in the random numbers to determine if lots of people were actively thinking about committing a suicide bombing. They might be able to find the evil-thinkers and stop them, or at least tighten security.

But this is also kind of creepy, it means it might be possible to read peoples minds using non-intrusive techniques, i.e. someone could read your mind and you wouldn't even know they were doing it.

I met a guy once who told me there was a theory that if you got enough people to believe(truly believe) the same thing, that it became a reality. At first glance this sounds preposterous, but if you evaluate it logically, it could possibly explain unexplainable events. If enough people believe that there are aliens, then we suddenly begin to get visits. If enough people believe that Buddhist monks can levitate, then they can. Then there is also the theory that some "Special" people can actually manipulate the collective human consciousness to give themselves "Powers" that aren't logical. I think its junk but this conversation reminded me of it.

to_hobbes · 01-02-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AB517

What to make of them, I do not know. I do believe that with the Big Bang went a Big WOW. God was born or whatever you want to call it.

As human beings, we can't ever rule out the possibility that God exists. However, science is never satisfied with such a simple explanation. Science assumes that there is always a logical explanation which can be determined with experimentation.

The GC findings could be coincidence, and I find it kind of odd that they are using random number generators rather than EEG's or some other more accurate form of mind detection.

I recall hearing a little while ago about an experiment. A laser-light was sent down an optic cable that was split, and each end of the optical split was was placed at a receiving station 10 km apart. The received the beam at one station was polarized, and instantly the light at the other station was polarized. No delay. There should have been a 30-microsecond delay. I don't know if anything came of this research. Maybe there was a 30-microsecond difference in the detecting equipment that they didn't notice.

Or, there could be some kind of unknown form of faster-than-light communication between quantum particles that we don't know about yet.

Maybe that quantum information can be generated by the human mind. That's why they need random-number generators which rely on quantum tunneling and thermal white-noise. Say for example the random distribution is Baysian or Gaussian. If collective human thoughts can really influence the shape of that random distribution, that is important to know.

This could be as big a break-through as discovering that electricity can be generated by magnets passing over a coil of wires. Or it could be nothing. But they seem to have been getting not-random results with more advanced experimentation.