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Old 12-16-2007, 01:30 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I am happy too

Belief in God sets one free and gives a person something other than self gratification to strive for
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Old 12-16-2007, 01:56 AM   #12 (permalink)
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you continue to presume much about me and I suspect others
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I see nothing whatsoever wrong with self-gratification, on the sole condition that one does not exploit or otherwise injure other sentient beings in the achievement of that gratification.

In My opinion, self-negation and acquiescence to the will of other beings leaves you with no life at all.
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Old 12-16-2007, 02:19 AM   #14 (permalink)
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you suspect others of what?
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Old 12-16-2007, 02:25 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 12-16-2007, 02:27 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:42 PM   #17 (permalink)
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People need to believe in something higher then themselves or they lose a sense of accountability
The only thing "higher than themselves" I believe people need to believe in is an inherent interest in perpetuating the human species. If you consider it carefully, that's at the root of all religious and other moral codes that have been developed.

All the accountability I need is a consideration of whether my actions tend to perpetuate or threaten the species of which I'm a member. That doesn't always square with the iterations of the basic principle that people have developed through the centuries, but it gets to the essence of the matter.

Once you take it further and adopt some conception of a supreme being with its promises of pie in the sky bye and bye, whether it entails pearly gates and streets of gold or 70 sumptuous brown-eyed virgins, you've partaken in what Freud described as "the opiate of the masses".
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everyone who believes god exists has a unique concept of what that god is (such as christianity and islam). the way i see it is that the stronger belief a person has that their version of god is right, the more likely that person is to fight others who say that they are wrong. this is something you think the world needs more of? i say that what the world needs more of is compassion, tolerance, and understanding of people with different beleifs.
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What gives anybody the right to tell me that I am not a good person?

I'm glad you are happy with your little social and spiritual belief system, but one must understand that there is nothing that has been truly discovered more powerful than the human spirit. I am more and more convinced that the concept of omniscience has been fostered to contain and limit that spirit instead of setting it free for the glory of humanity.

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Old 12-16-2007, 11:46 PM   #20 (permalink)
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only God knows what is truly good and bad

we can only guesstimate on this issue when we attempt to elimate him from the equation
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