Proof-existence of an intelligent Creator+Purpose

[andersbranderud]

Here follow the proofs:
Scientists have always inferred the origin of the universe by reversing the observed state of the universe. At first, the universe was thought to be static. Thus, science held that the universe simply "always was." Then scientists theorized that gravity must cause the universe to shrink. Thus, science changed its mind, inventing the "Big Bang" Theory. It wasn't until 1998 that astronomers discovered that the universe is expanding at an accelerating rate. Reversing an accelerating expansion to see back in time produces a universe that shrinks at a decelerating rate as one goes back in time to its origin. Follow this process to its ultimate and the rate of shrinkage reduces to converge with timespace where both are zero. That is, both shrinkage and timespace stop at timespace=0. Thus, timespace has a beginning.

From timespace=0, scientists hold that nothing in the universe magically "popped in" with no cause. It is a fundamental law of physics that every physical occurrence in the universe has a cause.
The fundamental laws of physics then require a cause of the universe ex nihilo; i.e., a Prime Cause Singularity that is non-dimensional and independent of timespace. In contrast to endless opinionating of innumerable pseudo-scientific religionists, science recognizes the necessity of a Prime Cause ex nihilo

No eminent scientist represents that our perfectly-orderly universe can be explained ex nihilo without a Prime Cause. Being logically consistent (orderly), the universe must mirror its Prime Cause / Singularity-Creator—Who must be Perfectly Orderly; i.e. Perfect. Therefore, no intelligent person can ignore that our purpose and challenge in life is learning how we, as imperfect humans, may successfully relate to a Perfect Singularity-Creator without our co-mingling, which transcends the timespace of this dimensional physical universe, becoming an imperfection to the Perfect Singularity-Creator

An orderly Creator necessarily had an Intelligent Purpose in creating this universe and us within it and, being Just and Orderly, necessarily placed an explanation, a "Life's Instruction Manual," within the reach of His subjects—humankind.

It defies the orderliness (logic / mathematics) of both the universe and Perfection of its Creator to assert that humanity was (contrary to His Tor•âh′ , see below) without any means of rapproachment until millennia after the first couple in recorded history as well as millennia after Abraham, Moses and the prophets. Therefore, the Creator's "Life's Instruction Manual" has been available to man at least since the beginning of recorded history. The only enduring document of this kind is the Tor•âh′ —which, interestingly, translates to "Instruction" (not "law" as popularly alleged). (Source: See below website)

Religions that contradict Torah, therefore, are the antithesis of the Creator.

If you accept formal logic and science you will agree with this formal logical proof. Continued reading of how to relate to the Creator you will find in this website: www.netzarim.co.il

Anders Branderud

[Adventfred]

Ill leave this for the more established members but let me ask you this

you say timespace=0
but is 0 actually possible or possible to get
hmmm think about it you cant have 0 or nothin of anything
so think about it first

[Bill]

Originally Posted by andersbranderud

Here follow the proofs:

With all due respect, your essay contains so many factual and logical errors I really don't know whether to parse it into pieces show each in turn, or simply throw the whole morass into the nearest trash can.

Regards

Bill

[Og]

Originally Posted by andersbranderud

Follow this process to its ultimate and the rate of shrinkage reduces to converge with timespace where both are zero. That is, both shrinkage and timespace stop at timespace=0. Thus, timespace has a beginning.

From timespace=0, scientists hold that nothing in the universe magically "popped in" with no cause. It is a fundamental law of physics that every physical occurrence in the universe has a cause.
The fundamental laws of physics then require a cause of the universe ex nihilo; i.e., a Prime Cause Singularity that is non-dimensional and independent of timespace. In contrast to endless opinionating of innumerable pseudo-scientific religionists, science recognizes the necessity of a Prime Cause ex nihilo

No eminent scientist represents that our perfectly-orderly universe can be explained ex nihilo without a Prime Cause.

This is your main contradiction. It's an understandable mistake given that you're clearly not involved in the field and thus have no access to a cosmic intuition that physicists can derive.

You can't say that time stops at "timespace=0" and then that there is a cause. Causality requires the flow of time. If time is not flowing, then your statement makes no sense.

It's not that there "can be no cause without time." It's that statements about causality without the concept of time are just ill posed. Those kind of sentences quoted above just don't make sense.

This is a common missrepresentation of the theory due to the fact that we live in an inertial reference frame (i.e. where dilation of time/space is negligible on the scales that we're used to dealing with).

[TessandraFae]

Are we assuming time is linear? Aren't there exceptions to this?

[Og]

What do you mean by "time is linear?" Linear with respect to what?

[TessandraFae]

this is regarding the flow of time statement. Humans only perceive time in a linear sense but perhaps if there were a creator, he could somehow jump around in time, even to the time=0 point to kick things off...I don't know. Fun time paradox stuff.

[Adventfred]

Originally Posted by TessandraFae

this is regarding the flow of time statement. Humans only perceive time in a linear sense but perhaps if there were a creator, he could somehow jump around in time, even to the time=0 point to kick things off...I don't know. Fun time paradox stuff.

but doesnt time flow in all directions
ie ive heard of particles flowing backwards in time so hmmmmmm
i dont actually think time exist outside of human constructs

[AB517]

Originally Posted by Adventfred

but doesnt time flow in all directions
ie ive heard of particles flowing backwards in time so hmmmmmm
i dont actually think time exist outside of human constructs

where have you heard this?

We humans decided what "time is" so it is of human construct.

[The Nameless One]

Originally Posted by Adventfred

but doesnt time flow in all directions
ie ive heard of particles flowing backwards in time so hmmmmmm
i dont actually think time exist outside of human constructs

Maybe this is what you are talking about?

The Feynman-Stueckelberg interpretation

By considering the propagation of the negative energy modes of the electron field backward in time, Ernst Stueckelberg reached a pictorial understanding of the fact that the particle and antiparticle have equal mass m and spin J but opposite charges q. This allowed him to rewrite perturbation theory precisely in the form of diagrams. Richard Feynman later gave an independent systematic derivation of these diagrams from a particle formalism, and they are now called Feynman diagrams. Each line of a diagram represents a particle propagating either backward or forward in time. This technique is the most widespread method of computing amplitudes in quantum field theory today.

Since this picture was first developed by Ernst Stueckelberg, and acquired its modern form in Feynman's work, it is called the Feynman-Stueckelberg interpretation of antiparticles to honor both scientists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiparticle