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Old 06-14-2007, 10:00 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I am an American. So yes I would be upset. He may be an idiot at times, but he is a the basic average Joe president. And there are a few things you have to give him credit for. I'm not so sure some of the other choices of presidents out there would have brought us in the ok condition as of now (if you want to even call it "ok")
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Old 06-15-2007, 05:47 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Ah but do you really want an average Joe kind of President? Surely as a nation you should be aiming for more than that? We've had an average Joe Prime Minister for ten years and he's been hopeless. In his resignation speech he said "sometimes you're alone with your decisions." Well, no you're not, you had a cabinet and a Parliament full of MP's who could have helped you decide but you ignored them every day of your working life.

You had a highly partisan president who, once he lost Congress, suddenly said, "hey ho, chaps, how about a bit less partisanship, let's all work together." Meanwhile he sends more troops to Iraq and asks for more money to solve a problem he started in the first place...
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Old 06-15-2007, 03:05 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Trust me my friends, even Americans that support Bush are ready for him to move on. Everyone is tired seeing friends ship off for Iraq, tired of failed immigration reform, tired of reckless spending, and tired of the same old Bush jokes. I can't wait for the election and at this point I don't care who gets the presidency so long as it's a change of pace.
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Old 06-17-2007, 10:32 AM   #14 (permalink)
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It's all about National Pride, I'd be pretty pissed if Putin got assasinated or if Stephen Harper got shot, but the question here is if I'd be angry if Bush was assasinated, my answer is no, I wouldn't care at all EXCEPT for the fact that Dick would succeed him, and something about that guy's grotesque VP photo doesn't sit well with me.
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I certainly don't want a President who thinks water boarding is nothing more than a "dunk in the water". I think that shows a disturbing lack of empathy for other human beings.
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Old 06-17-2007, 11:06 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I remember having this discussion back in my student days about Margaret Thatcher and frankly as far as she was concerned I would have kissed the feet of anyone who succeeded with gratitude and delight. Indeed it was Morrissey who recorded a song called "Margaret on the guillotine," and it was a great track, I recommend it to everyone.

As far as Georgie is concerned I would question why the assassin decided to wait six and a half years before doing the deed but outside the US and, apparently, Albania, few would mourn.

I suppose the wider question is should we wish people dead? There are plenty of people out there I wish hadn't been born - Ahmadinejad, Saddam, Netanyahu, Natasha Beddingfield, Phil Collins, a kid I was at school with called Alex etc. But having been born would we condone their murder?
I don't think we should wish people dead. I'm not mourning the death of Jerry Fallwell, but I'm not rejoincing eithier.
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Old 06-17-2007, 05:41 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Of course we should wish people dead. Upwards of thirty million people died because of the vanity of Adolf Hitler to use an obvious example. I think it would have been fair enough to congraulate those on the receiving end for wanting the perpetrator of their suffering to cease existing.
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Old 06-17-2007, 08:25 PM   #17 (permalink)
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tired of the same old Bush jokes
Seriously. We need someone new to make fun of.
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:19 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Agreed. I think whoever the next president is, there will be PLENTY to make fun of. Just look at the canidites.
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:55 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I have to be honest - I wouldn't be angry ,but a bit let down that someone stooped low enough to do so.

Bush will suffer more knowing he's going down as the worst president in history. Let's have him around to be a living reminder of what happens when you don't use your brain to vote and install a drunk as president ( yeah yeah the people didn't elect him the first time ). If he died by assassination you may create in some obscene way a neocon maryter.
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:04 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Disclaimer: I am not an American but I have several relatives Stateside.

I wouldn't be angry. Wouldn't be sad, either. Might be mildly disappointed, because for some reason I'm expecting him to spill the beans about something before his life runs his course.
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