america and fear

Pooonu · 03-25-2007, 01:27 PM

ever since seeing those videos about the whole 9/11 conspiracy i have troubles piecing together all the evidence, i know for a fact that there are a lot of things that don't add up there but thats not what this thread is about..

since 9/11 does it seem to you that our government is deliberately setting fear into the u.s.?.?.

the tv saying all the ways that america is vunerable and the color cordination of what level of risk we are to terrorist attack..

personally i feel that we are being brainwashed, fear is a very powerful emotion that is manipulative and controlling.. i am not saying that we shouldn't be concerned about another attack, but they might be taking it a little too far in some cases..

...and for the record, attacking a country that has never attacked us, has never killed any american citizen, has never threatened us, and poses no threat to the safety of our country and is soley used as a scapegoat for what goes wrong with the Bush administration is a act of a coward and an idiot that needs to get his head out of his own a$$..

bcspinner · 03-25-2007, 01:41 PM

I agree with you about fear being a very powerful emotion. It can make people do things or make decisions that they might not normally make. The media seems to know this and can pump people full of fear. I think that happened with the Iraq situation and now a lot of people want the troopers to come home from Iraq before there are more casualties and injuries.

lauraclay · 03-25-2007, 05:39 PM

The government and the media are not mass beings bent on instilling us with fear to brainwash us. They are composed of people, individuals just like you and I. If they are overreacting and are paranoid of another attack, it is because they are scared. We have charged the government with our lives, similar to a child and parent. Think of the government sort of like an overprotective parent. And if we were attacked again, the government would be blamed. The media is charged with letting us know the truth about everything. Sort of like a gossipy friend. If there is something out there, we want to know it, and we want to know it now. You can't blame the media for reporting what we want to know. If as a group, we all up and decided to not read anything scary, then the media would be forced to print something else. Except for maybe a few honorable journalists who would persevere. And be hated. And then declared heroes. I refuse to believe we are being brainwashed.

bcspinner · 03-26-2007, 02:15 PM

While I agree that the media is made of individuals, they are also businesses and with and agenda: to make money. The more viewers, the more ads, the more money.
Living in another country I can see the bias in the reporting from the US media. A lot of times the facts are not presented but opinions are presented.
It may be to push a certain agenda or another. Either way, fear is used to manipulate and get people to watch.

lauraclay · 03-26-2007, 02:32 PM

The media does have to do whatever it has to to get people to watch, but there isn't a govenment conspiracy to scare the living sh*t out of us.

Pooonu · 03-26-2007, 06:25 PM

yes i agree that there is no conspiracy that the govenment is controlling the media, yet when there is a twenty-four hour alert of breaking news that someone might have brought a pen bomb on a plane so now the security level on airports increased by tenfold... you have to admit that if we didn't have all this media pressing the issue of why some of our rights might be or have been taken away "patriot act" the u.s citizens would not comply so easily.. just turn on the television to a major news station and tell me if there is any news going on that doesn't involve a national security crisis or about the war that we are stuck in... the news is a downer drug if i ever saw one

lauraclay · 03-26-2007, 09:00 PM

The world is a downer. And I think all the scary news stories are having the opposite effect. I think we're becoming numb. How many people seriously get scared now watching the news? How many people seriously are like, "Oh my god!!! 3 more suicide bombers in Iraq!!!" Most people are more like "Oh, another 3. Great. 3 down." Those are both exaggerations, but you get the idea.

**The An-Jel** · 03-26-2007, 11:24 PM

You know the thing is average person believed all the fear mongering for about six monthsafter 9/11 then they got the idea something was and is very wrong. Much like how the guy got voted into office and similarily how he got voted back into office. He as I understand the books should have lost both elections. Once in Florida and once in Ohio. I think something extra is going on here while it doesn't add up to a conspiracy it does add up to manipulating the public. I mean the Administration is blatant about it and doesn't care. Thats why it isn't a conspiracy.

Incidently Pooonu what doesn't add up as far as 9/11 goes? I am just curious.

Pooonu · 03-27-2007, 01:24 PM

what does add up on 9/11... i find it very difficult to believe that building 7, that was not hit by a plane nor suffered any interior damage spontaneously collapsed upon itself... i find it difficult to belive that those massive towers that were specifically designed to handle all types of weather, wind, and even airplanes fall to the ground in under ten seconds.. there is so much into this that i won't go in to but this could be an entirely different topic on itself.. i realize that people don't believe this and thats ok for we all have an opinion.. to me when i see families ruined and lives lost in a tragic accident and there is no investigation that takes place before they remove all evidence except the one bush appoints.. its sketchy

just today i watched as the director of FBI confessed that since the patriot act there has been over 3000 cases of them abusing it illegally.. so now not only are we concerned about what is happening overseas but we cannot trust our own government.. im thinking about the elderly people that watch the news every night, the soldiers that wish they never enlisted for where they are, and for the kids growing up that all they hear about now adays is the chaos going on in iraq.. the media/papers/magazines has not said one good thing about the war or iraq in general.. they grow up hating the country and making the stereotype that the country is worthless and that america is always in the right.. i realize that there will be strong opinions on this issue as well.. but as i see it through fear, overkill of media, and stubborn people in office sets us apart from a nation that lives in peace and treat all men equally to a nation that bombs innocent civilians and invades a country.... excuse me multiple countries in search of.........................................

let me know if u can think of anything after this

lauraclay · 03-27-2007, 04:44 PM

Can you show me where the architects building the WTC specifically designed it to sustain huge commercial airplanes slamming into the side of it? How, exactly, does any building sustain that type of damage? Just curious.