Atheist in Congress! - Page 3

Jodou1 · 02-09-2008, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Armel P

Few things anger me as much as the involvement of religion in politics. Listening to people giving speaches and mentioning God in some excited way and having everyone in the audience clap... I wish it was more amusing to know they are effectively applauding their low intellectual quotient and narrow-mindedness. But it isn't amusing. It is disgusting and emabrassing. I get too angry at the thought to even be able to write properly about how angry I am.

Another thing I get equally angry with is mushrooms. Just as disgusting.

At least we don't have to spend money with "In fungi we trust" all over it!

shadowind · 02-10-2008, 10:12 AM

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Another thing I get equally angry with is mushrooms. Just as disgusting.

I love mushrooms

AB517 · 02-10-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The An-Jel

You know what I find odd. The people in power need to think they are accountable to someone greater than themselves so that they feel they are accountable. The underlying feeling for me is that if they didn't feel they had a God that they or the people they rule would have no need for morals, respect, or any form of respect for life. I think it is really aimed at themselves but that just me.

It really leads me to question the direction of our world is going in!

This is crap.

Well, USA is turning away from severing the group and turning towards self serving and it is going down hill. Hmmm, makes me wonder too.

**Skepticologist** · 02-10-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AB517

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Originally Posted by The An-Jel

You know what I find odd. The people in power need to think they are accountable to someone greater than themselves so that they feel they are accountable. The underlying feeling for me is that if they didn't feel they had a God that they or the people they rule would have no need for morals, respect, or any form of respect for life. I think it is really aimed at themselves but that just me.

It really leads me to question the direction of our world is going in!

This is crap.

Well, USA is turning away from severing the group and turning towards self serving and it is going down hill. Hmmm, makes me wonder too.

I'm really not all that certain what your post means, but it appears to me you'd be a great Mike Huckabee supporter. Please correct me if I'm wrong (or at least be a bit more clear about what you mean).

AB517 · 02-11-2008, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by AB517

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Originally Posted by The An-Jel

You know what I find odd. The people in power need to think they are accountable to someone greater than themselves so that they feel they are accountable. The underlying feeling for me is that if they didn't feel they had a God that they or the people they rule would have no need for morals, respect, or any form of respect for life. I think it is really aimed at themselves but that just me.

It really leads me to question the direction of our world is going in!

This is crap.

Well, USA is turning away from severing the group and turning towards self serving and it is going down hill. Hmmm, makes me wonder too.

I'm really not all that certain what your post means, but it appears to me you'd be a great Mike Huckabee supporter. Please correct me if I'm wrong (or at least be a bit more clear about what you mean).

New kid skept (5 weeks), I am tired and confusing even to meself.

Crap:

This is the same ol’ same ol’ crap. It is the same crappy ideas that fundamental theist have when they say, “Atheist does not have morals because they are against God”. So fundamental atheist and fundamental theist are full of crap.

What the heck does he mean when he says that we should not be held accountable to a greater good? Policemen, firemen, and other public officials are, and should be, held to a greater good. I was in a leadership role most of my life and I explained to the new guys that “we are here playing a part … act it”. My underlying feeling is that this guy is ok with people doing what ever they want no matter who it affects. This line of thinking just does not work for a working society.

The USA, in the name of diversification, is tearing itself apart.

Anybody but Obama for me.

**Skepticologist** · 02-11-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AB517

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Originally Posted by AB517

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Originally Posted by The An-Jel

You know what I find odd. The people in power need to think they are accountable to someone greater than themselves so that they feel they are accountable. The underlying feeling for me is that if they didn't feel they had a God that they or the people they rule would have no need for morals, respect, or any form of respect for life. I think it is really aimed at themselves but that just me.

It really leads me to question the direction of our world is going in!

This is crap.

Well, USA is turning away from severing the group and turning towards self serving and it is going down hill. Hmmm, makes me wonder too.

I'm really not all that certain what your post means, but it appears to me you'd be a great Mike Huckabee supporter. Please correct me if I'm wrong (or at least be a bit more clear about what you mean).

New kid skept (5 weeks), I am tired and confusing even to meself.

Crap:

This is the same ol’ same ol’ crap. It is the same crappy ideas that fundamental theist have when they say, “Atheist does not have morals because they are against God”. So fundamental atheist and fundamental theist are full of crap.

What the heck does he mean when he says that we should not be held accountable to a greater good? Policemen, firemen, and other public officials are, and should be, held to a greater good. I was in a leadership role most of my life and I explained to the new guys that “we are here playing a part … act it”. My underlying feeling is that this guy is ok with people doing what ever they want no matter who it affects. This line of thinking just does not work for a working society.

The USA, in the name of diversification, is tearing itself apart.

Anybody but Obama for me.

Sorry, but I have to confess to being completely at a loss as to what you're trying to convey.

I can relate to your admission of being "tired and confusing even to meself", (I frequently feel that way myself) but not much else.

Purely on the basis of thinking you may have something valuable to offer, I'd like to hear more but, please, a bit more clearly this time.

AB517 · 02-12-2008, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Skepticologist

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Originally Posted by AB517

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Originally Posted by Skepticologist

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Originally Posted by AB517

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Originally Posted by The An-Jel

You know what I find odd. The people in power need to think they are accountable to someone greater than themselves so that they feel they are accountable. The underlying feeling for me is that if they didn't feel they had a God that they or the people they rule would have no need for morals, respect, or any form of respect for life. I think it is really aimed at themselves but that just me.

It really leads me to question the direction of our world is going in!

This is crap.

Well, USA is turning away from severing the group and turning towards self serving and it is going down hill. Hmmm, makes me wonder too.

I'm really not all that certain what your post means, but it appears to me you'd be a great Mike Huckabee supporter. Please correct me if I'm wrong (or at least be a bit more clear about what you mean).

New kid skept (5 weeks), I am tired and confusing even to meself.

Crap:

This is the same ol’ same ol’ crap. It is the same crappy ideas that fundamental theist have when they say, “Atheist does not have morals because they are against God”. So fundamental atheist and fundamental theist are full of crap.

What the heck does he mean when he says that we should not be held accountable to a greater good? Policemen, firemen, and other public officials are, and should be, held to a greater good. I was in a leadership role most of my life and I explained to the new guys that “we are here playing a part … act it”. My underlying feeling is that this guy is ok with people doing what ever they want no matter who it affects. This line of thinking just does not work for a working society.

The USA, in the name of diversification, is tearing itself apart.

Anybody but Obama for me.

Sorry, but I have to confess to being completely at a loss as to what you're trying to convey.

I can relate to your admission of being "tired and confusing even to meself", (I frequently feel that way myself) but not much else.

Purely on the basis of thinking you may have something valuable to offer, I'd like to hear more but, please, a bit more clearly this time.

yeah sure.

what part needs explaining?

**Skepticologist** · 02-12-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AB517

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Originally Posted by Skepticologist

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Originally Posted by AB517

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Originally Posted by Skepticologist

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Originally Posted by AB517

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Originally Posted by The An-Jel

You know what I find odd. The people in power need to think they are accountable to someone greater than themselves so that they feel they are accountable. The underlying feeling for me is that if they didn't feel they had a God that they or the people they rule would have no need for morals, respect, or any form of respect for life. I think it is really aimed at themselves but that just me.

It really leads me to question the direction of our world is going in!

This is crap.

Well, USA is turning away from severing the group and turning towards self serving and it is going down hill. Hmmm, makes me wonder too.

I'm really not all that certain what your post means, but it appears to me you'd be a great Mike Huckabee supporter. Please correct me if I'm wrong (or at least be a bit more clear about what you mean).

New kid skept (5 weeks), I am tired and confusing even to meself.

Crap:

This is the same ol’ same ol’ crap. It is the same crappy ideas that fundamental theist have when they say, “Atheist does not have morals because they are against God”. So fundamental atheist and fundamental theist are full of crap.

What the heck does he mean when he says that we should not be held accountable to a greater good? Policemen, firemen, and other public officials are, and should be, held to a greater good. I was in a leadership role most of my life and I explained to the new guys that “we are here playing a part … act it”. My underlying feeling is that this guy is ok with people doing what ever they want no matter who it affects. This line of thinking just does not work for a working society.

The USA, in the name of diversification, is tearing itself apart.

Anybody but Obama for me.

Sorry, but I have to confess to being completely at a loss as to what you're trying to convey.

I can relate to your admission of being "tired and confusing even to meself", (I frequently feel that way myself) but not much else.

Purely on the basis of thinking you may have something valuable to offer, I'd like to hear more but, please, a bit more clearly this time.

yeah sure.

what part needs explaining?

ALL of it needs explaining. Sorry, but I have this lingering aversion to responding to something I don't understand. Things tend to get muddled.

AB517 · 02-13-2008, 10:07 AM

OK,
First understand that I replied to his thread so be sure you start there.

You know what I find odd. The people in power need to think they are accountable to someone greater than themselves so that they feel they are accountable. The underlying feeling for me is that if they didn't feel they had a God that they or the people they rule would have no need for morals, respect, or any form of respect for life. I think it is really aimed at themselves but that just me.

It really leads me to question the direction of our world is going in!

I’ll break my response down but not change it to see of that helps.

His

The underlying feeling for me is that if they didn't feel they had a God that they or the people they rule would have no need for morals, respect, or any form of respect for life.

AB517 response

This is the same ol’ same ol’ crap. It is the same crappy ideas that fundamental theist have when they say, “Atheist does not have morals because they are against God”. So fundamental atheist and fundamental theist are full of crap.

HIS

You know what I find odd. The people in power need to think they are accountable to someone greater than themselves so that they feel they are accountable.

AB517 response

What the heck does he mean when he says that we should not be held accountable to a greater good? Policemen, firemen, and other public officials are, and should be, held to a greater good. I was in a leadership role most of my life and I explained to the new guys that “we are here playing a part … act it”.

HIS

I think it is really aimed at themselves but that just me.
It really leads me to question the direction of our world is going in!

AB517

My underlying feeling is that this guy is ok with people doing what ever they want no matter who it affects. This line of thinking just does not work for a working society.

The USA, in the name of diversification, is tearing itself apart.

The Obama comment was just a nothing comment in reply to your nothing comment about the Huckster.

NEW STUFF

I thought at first you did not know about the multicultural diversification trends going on in the US.

Please, if there is a point that needs more clarification let me know. I need a reference point, I am sorry for that.

**Skepticologist** · 02-15-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AB517

OK,
First understand that I replied to his thread so be sure you start there.

You know what I find odd. The people in power need to think they are accountable to someone greater than themselves so that they feel they are accountable. The underlying feeling for me is that if they didn't feel they had a God that they or the people they rule would have no need for morals, respect, or any form of respect for life. I think it is really aimed at themselves but that just me.

It really leads me to question the direction of our world is going in!

I’ll break my response down but not change it to see of that helps.

His

The underlying feeling for me is that if they didn't feel they had a God that they or the people they rule would have no need for morals, respect, or any form of respect for life.

AB517 response

This is the same ol’ same ol’ crap. It is the same crappy ideas that fundamental theist have when they say, “Atheist does not have morals because they are against God”. So fundamental atheist and fundamental theist are full of crap.

HIS

You know what I find odd. The people in power need to think they are accountable to someone greater than themselves so that they feel they are accountable.

AB517 response

What the heck does he mean when he says that we should not be held accountable to a greater good? Policemen, firemen, and other public officials are, and should be, held to a greater good. I was in a leadership role most of my life and I explained to the new guys that “we are here playing a part … act it”.

HIS

I think it is really aimed at themselves but that just me.
It really leads me to question the direction of our world is going in!

AB517

My underlying feeling is that this guy is ok with people doing what ever they want no matter who it affects. This line of thinking just does not work for a working society.

The USA, in the name of diversification, is tearing itself apart.

The Obama comment was just a nothing comment in reply to your nothing comment about the Huckster.

NEW STUFF

I thought at first you did not know about the multicultural diversification trends going on in the US.

Please, if there is a point that needs more clarification let me know. I need a reference point, I am sorry for that.

All very interesting but still largely disjointed and incomprehensible.

However, your central point seems to be that the US is tearing itself apart in the interest of "diversification" (actually, the more correct term is "diversity".

Based on my experience, that's just another way of saying that at some arbitrary point between the landing of the Mayflower at Plymouth Rock and the present, the subset of "real Americans" was distinguished from everyone else in the country and somehow lays claim to exclusive rights and privileges. Very convenient as long as the ethnic, nationalistic, religious and/or socio-economic group you happen to belong to is included.

Such parochial and self-centered views accomplish nothing more than delaying the arrival of a point in time when all Americans can celebrate their differences as opposed to accentuating them negatively, thus fomenting unity and collaboration vs. duplicity and conflict.