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05-03-2008, 08:58 PM
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| If there is an AntiChrist, it's Barack Obama Interpretation of the AntiChrist largely comes down to ones personal beliefs. Though I feel the Bible is made up of mostly fictional stories, I don't automatically discount prophecy from any source. I do feel there are some(possibly everybody) who has the potential to see into the future in one way or another, whether it be "visions", dreams, etc. Deja Vu, for example, I've experienced many times and cannot and will not write off as simply "misfiring of neurons" bull. There's "feelings" that people can get which I can see being attributed to neurons misfiring, and then there are more than feelings when you have a dream where later on you experience down to each and every word. Perhaps whoever was the first to prophesize about the AntiChrist could not differentiate between his own dogma and what he saw, but DID see a very corrupt leader nontheless.
According to Scripture, there will be a leader during the "End Times", that will be corrupted and will pretend to care about his people at first but only to reveal his true colors at a later time. He will be liked and respected by many and will be well spoken.
Let's take a look at Barack Hussein Osama.
Well liked? Check.
Well spoken? Check.
Hmmm, that's only 2 checks, maybe just a coincidence? Yeah, maybe. Let's also look at his pastor. For knowing Jeremiah Wright for as long as he has, it would be a stretch to say he was unaware of his pastor's beliefs. Would it be a stretch to say Obama is racist too?
"Well....." some would say.
Alright. Let me also throw this at you. The man who is running to be the President of The United States of America decided he didn't want to put his hand over his heart during the country's National Anthem. Bit disrespectful, no? Some go as far as claiming he's a Muslim(nothing would be wrong with that per se, for the record).
Now the AntiChrist is said to be a leader, so to be honest I don't think Barack Osama winning the election is necessarily needed to be the AntiChrist.
Again, I don't actually believe this to be true 100%, but as the title says, IF there is an AntiChrist, I feel Obama is him.
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05-03-2008, 09:18 PM
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| Wow! I'm not really fond of him but antichrist? 
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05-03-2008, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by StuckInThe90s Interpretation of the AntiChrist largely comes down to ones personal beliefs. Though I feel the Bible is made up of mostly fictional stories, I don't automatically discount prophecy from any source. I do feel there are some(possibly everybody) who has the potential to see into the future in one way or another, whether it be "visions", dreams, etc. Deja Vu, for example, I've experienced many times and cannot and will not write off as simply "misfiring of neurons" bull. There's "feelings" that people can get which I can see being attributed to neurons misfiring, and then there are more than feelings when you have a dream where later on you experience down to each and every word. Perhaps whoever was the first to prophesize about the AntiChrist could not differentiate between his own dogma and what he saw, but DID see a very corrupt leader nontheless.
According to Scripture, there will be a leader during the "End Times", that will be corrupted and will pretend to care about his people at first but only to reveal his true colors at a later time. He will be liked and respected by many and will be well spoken.
Let's take a look at Barack Hussein Osama.
Well liked? Check.
Well spoken? Check.
Hmmm, that's only 2 checks, maybe just a coincidence? Yeah, maybe. Let's also look at his pastor. For knowing Jeremiah Wright for as long as he has, it would be a stretch to say he was unaware of his pastor's beliefs. Would it be a stretch to say Obama is racist too?
"Well....." some would say.
Alright. Let me also throw this at you. The man who is running to be the President of The United States of America decided he didn't want to put his hand over his heart during the country's National Anthem. Bit disrespectful, no? Some go as far as claiming he's a Muslim(nothing would be wrong with that per se, for the record).
Now the AntiChrist is said to be a leader, so to be honest I don't think Barack Osama winning the election is necessarily needed to be the AntiChrist.
Again, I don't actually believe this to be true 100%, but as the title says, IF there is an AntiChrist, I feel Obama is him. | Extrapolating anything from biblical revelations is a stretch. You are correct that there were many accurate prophecies, Edgar Cayce comes to mind, however, revelation was one big symbolic hallucination of beasts and broken seals etc. I remember when people thought that ronald reagan was the antichrist because his name: Ronald Wilson Reagan, had 6 letters in each name, hence 666 the number of the beast. IMO, the controversial stuff about obama, though interesting, hardly equates to the antichrist. Politicians will always be controversial no matter who it is. I personally wanted to see Ron Paul win but such is life. |
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05-03-2008, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GX I personally wanted to see Ron Paul win but such is life. | You and me both. Hell, I'd have even taken Kucinich over the 3 possibilities we have now.
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05-04-2008, 04:09 AM
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| Gave it some thought over the last few hours and if for sake of argument we need to go by the word of the Bible, it would have been impossible for Reagan to have been the AntiChrist. His first, middle, and last name all having 6 characters is meaningless. During his campaign and his time as president, he was 68/69 and that's a complete contradiction to how the AntiChrist is described as being fairly young. Can't understand why nobody realized that.
__________________ "Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."
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05-04-2008, 11:19 AM
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| | head goof ball
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| So vote Hillary and you don't have to worry about the Antichrist!
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05-04-2008, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by StuckInThe90s Quote:
Originally Posted by GX I personally wanted to see Ron Paul win but such is life. | You and me both. Hell, I'd have even taken Kucinich over the 3 possibilities we have now. | I am gona vote for him just because you called him one.  |
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05-04-2008, 12:21 PM
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| WTF? So is anyone in a leadership position who is well liked and well spoken about to bring about the end of the world?!
I SURE HOPE SO!
I'm tired of living in the world that has been created by neoconservatism. I'm tired of the way that this administration has fostered the religious crazies and fed off them for support and votes. I'd love to see this world come to an end and a new world begin.
Do you know anything about reverend wright? Which set of his comments did you find racist? Do you know the context that they were in? Obama is a very positive, rational, and charismatic individual and I think he would make a wonderful president.
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05-04-2008, 12:30 PM
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| The Anti-Christ isn't a person.
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05-04-2008, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by StuckInThe90s Interpretation of the AntiChrist largely comes down to ones personal beliefs. Though I feel the Bible is made up of mostly fictional stories, I don't automatically discount prophecy from any source. I do feel there are some(possibly everybody) who has the potential to see into the future in one way or another, whether it be "visions", dreams, etc. Deja Vu, for example, I've experienced many times and cannot and will not write off as simply "misfiring of neurons" bull. There's "feelings" that people can get which I can see being attributed to neurons misfiring, and then there are more than feelings when you have a dream where later on you experience down to each and every word. Perhaps whoever was the first to prophesize about the AntiChrist could not differentiate between his own dogma and what he saw, but DID see a very corrupt leader nontheless.
According to Scripture, there will be a leader during the "End Times", that will be corrupted and will pretend to care about his people at first but only to reveal his true colors at a later time. He will be liked and respected by many and will be well spoken.
Let's take a look at Barack Hussein Osama.
Well liked? Check.
Well spoken? Check.
Hmmm, that's only 2 checks, maybe just a coincidence? Yeah, maybe. Let's also look at his pastor. For knowing Jeremiah Wright for as long as he has, it would be a stretch to say he was unaware of his pastor's beliefs. Would it be a stretch to say Obama is racist too?
"Well....." some would say.
Alright. Let me also throw this at you. The man who is running to be the President of The United States of America decided he didn't want to put his hand over his heart during the country's National Anthem. Bit disrespectful, no? Some go as far as claiming he's a Muslim(nothing would be wrong with that per se, for the record).
Now the AntiChrist is said to be a leader, so to be honest I don't think Barack Osama winning the election is necessarily needed to be the AntiChrist.
Again, I don't actually believe this to be true 100%, but as the title says, IF there is an AntiChrist, I feel Obama is him. | I actually kind of like Obama. I haven't done any research on him however, so i only know about him what they display in the media, but i can't vote anyways. He hasn't been around long enough though..so there might be some unknown facts that would work against him, which is why i think Clinton would be a better choice. She's been in the public eye long enough, where all her faults, or most, are on display,so i just find it easier to trust her. Plus, it would be interesting to see a female in presidency for a change. 
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