buzz2

Duck, I didn't say it was your fault specifically. I dare say, it's the teacher's unions that are at fault. Instead of constantly worrying about your salaries and trying to get those raised, try teaching better. I say get rid of the teachers unions. Your pay should be based on merit. If you've got kids failing all the time, then you should be fired. (Not you specifically Duck). In general. You should be looking to blame Sen. Kennedy and McCain for that atroshious education bill they put out there. Contrary to popular belief, everything that goes wrong is not Bush's fault. This time next year, who'll you folks be blaming? I'm anxious to find out. Who'll be your scapegoat then? Just for your general knowledge, my boys do know how to spell. Not for anything that the govt. schrools do though. I make sure that they take pride in whatever they do in their studies. The younger boy wants to even be a writer some day. Just as a matter of fact.

duck

One thing about it, Buzz, is that I work in an "At Will" state with little or no union. Compared to other places with strong unions, there is good and bad to both. I am "tenured" here, but..., and this is a strong "but", I have to show professional growth and improvement to maintain that status. On the other hand, our weaker links do get kicked to the curb, so to speak. In fact, one teacher here that is weaker than all get out was shown the door this year, not because they couldn't teach the content, but because they didn't have the ability to relate well with students. (Note: I use the word "they" to not specify the gender of this person, not in a grammatical malaprop.)

Just remember this, you can't wave a magic wand at what is wrong in our society without a price tag being attached to it. We can't cure what is wrong in public education without it costing something. There are districts in America where the corruption and political agendas have completely taken away from the prime focus of educating our children. Corruption and mismanagement are not easy to cure.

NCLB was an attempt to put the focus on all children making benchmark standards and get away from the downward spiral in our urban school district's performance in educating children. The problem is, it opened the Pandora's box of problems in another direction.

Why do I blame Bush? I blame him for taking credit for this so called education reform package that was to solve all the problems in education with that wave of the magical legislative wand.

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shadowind

teachers teach to the test, they should teach to the student, i like my project oriented and science classes the best. in my project lead the way principle of engineering class were making balsita devices, mine is suppose to launch a ping-pong 15 feet everone has a different design, its exploration and discovery, not zoning out at a boring lecture or geting frustrated at rules that get in the way. my memory isn't the best, but i don't want to just memorize, i want to create. some of my classes seem to just be memorization and studying, bla, we all forget it in a month after the test if the next section doesn't build off of it.

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romansh

The responsibility for our children to be educated lies with the parents and to a lesser extent with the child. The hammer bears little responsibility when driving home the nail.

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debdodd

You are such a goof ball!

I am not bigoted towards christians "mister jesus loves me and hates gays" .... I dislike narrow minded, tight sphinctered, bible thumping, bigots ... I don't hate you yet but am beginning to find you rather unpleasant ..... I only hate pedophiles ....

yeah Buzz I got my torn rotator cuff from patting myself on the back where the hell were you when I needed the extra hand .... oh yeah, I know you had it waving in the air yelling praise jesus at the revival tent ....

now that we have dispensed with the friendly banter .... you don't know where you are going Buzz ... you only believe you are going to heaven ... remember the god of the old testament is a vengeful god. .... it was only jesus the son of god who had the loving heart ....

anyway, neither of us will know till we are dead but I do know that you are a narrow minded man ... where is your live and let live .... the good old Texas rebel yell of "kill 'em all and let god sort it" out mantra? You just love coming on forum and singing out your hellfire and brimstone preaching .... thou does protest far to much about seeing in hell tho" .... Buzz, I don't give a fat ratz ass if you to to hell, purgatory or sit at the feet of the holy father that you believe in .... just do everyone a favor and try a little of tolerance! Back at ya with all the love and mushy stuff buzzy baby! hugs and kisses buzzy

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buzz2

Thanks Deb. Right back at ya!!

Jodou1

I suppose the rant of a gay man isn't worthy of a reply. Now THAT hurts buzz, I'm officially uninviting you from the next pride parade!

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greywolf90

these are exactly my feelings on our education system. school seems like a waste of my time when all teachers do is prepare you so that you can pass a test and then forget everything after.

buzz- i agree with jodou. i think he brought up some good points that you seemed to simpily ignore. you supposedly don't mind people being gay as long as you don't have to know about it. so how would you feel if you and your wife were treated the same way?
(there jodou, now a straight man has asked him )

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buzz2

This is in response to Jodou and you Wolfy. I simply can't change how I feel about the "gay" population. I don't know how to just turn off what has been
a constant in my mind for what seems like forever. Sorry. I don't wish to offend anybody. But, that's the way it is. But, at least I'm not one of those "skin-head Nazis" that go out to terrorize "gays" either. I just choose to not associate with that culture or pay it any attention. Not in hopes that it goes away. Just that it doesn't infringe on me or mine. My future sister in-law is a lesbian. When we're around each other, we simply don't get into a discussion or debate about it. Because it IS a hot button issue with us. Otherwise, we get along very well. I don't think she has "cooties" or something stupid like that. She knows how myself and my fiancee feel about it. We don't try to change each other's minds one way or the other. It's a dead issue to me. Let it go.

Jodou1

I appreciate the reply, and simply want you to know, in regards to the only thing you want is it to not "infringe" upon your life. That is all we want for ourselves, we're not so different.

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