All Three Are The Same, But Different - Page 4

buzz2 · 05-01-2008, 09:04 PM

Ya know? It figures. A bunch of agnostics and atheists like yourselves. I seen it coming. I should have known that all of you were OK with the whole HOMO thing. First off. What makes you all the moral authority? Who are you to sit and pass judgement on me? I'm sure that if you all searched your own hearts, you'd find something there that others might not think was too cool either. I'd be willing to bet that each and every one of you have some sort of prejudice within you. Like your prejudice towards Christians. So don't you dare sit on your high horses and think you're better than me. Because you're not. Or don't you put your hatred and resentment of Christians on the same plane as my disdain for homos and the way it is flaunted in our faces? You all are so high and mighty. It's time to do a reality check and search your own hearts. I wonder what it feels like to be so high up there in your perfect world. To even attempt to judge me without even knowing me. That's quite presumptuous on your part. Why don't you people get a clue? Come down out of your ivory towers.
And to address your statement Deb. I have several friends that aren't white. One of whom, I'd consider to be like a brother to me. So, does that make me only half a bigot? How do you even know that I am white. I do have a Spanish last name. But, you don't know that I might be black. You just assume. You know what assuming does? Makes an ass of u & me. So think before you go off half cocked like that.
And let me tell you something, Ducky. You're as much a bigot as you claim I am. With your anti-religious rantings. To all of you who sit in judgement of me,.. that's like the pot calling the kettle black. Your prejudices are just as bad as you think mine are. Thanks for the education though. Now I know what kind of two faced hypocrites I'm dealing with also. Oh, it's all good as long as I agree with you. But when I disagree, then the rocks start to fly. Like I said, HYPOCRITES. Have a nice life. You all deserve each other.

duck · 05-01-2008, 09:16 PM

One more time. Don't go away mad. You opened the door.

**debdodd** · 05-02-2008, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by buzz2

Ya know?* It figures.* A bunch of agnostics and atheists like yourselves.* I seen it coming.* I should have known that all of you were OK with the whole HOMO thing.*

yep quite okay with the whole homo thing ... I can even can live with the whole redneck thing .....

First off.* What makes you all the moral authority?
Okay ... so what makes you the moral authority?

Who are you to sit and pass judgement on me?
Dude by your very words you are a bigot ... you never did answer the black man white woman thing .... so is just okay for you to have a black friend but him not marry your daughter?

I'm sure that if you all searched your own hearts, you'd find something there that others might not think was too cool either.
yep, I hate rapists, pedophiles, parents that beat their kids, parents that keep their kids ignorant ....* anything along those lines ...

I'd be willing to bet that each and every one of you have some sort of prejudice within you.*
Only against certain vegetables

Like your prejudice towards Christians.
Give us a break we aren't prejudiced against you, we just don't see eye to eye with you .... I wouldn't tell my son he couldn't marry a christian or that their beliefs are wrong ... they are just not my beliefs*

So don't you dare sit on your high horses and think you're better than me.
where did any of us say we were better than you .... get your boxers out of a twist .... not one person said that they were better than you ..... jeez oh pete buzz! kinda defensive aren't you?

Because you're not.* Or don't you put your hatred and resentment of Christians on the same plane as my disdain for homos and the way it is flaunted in our faces?
Plenty of christians are tolerant of alternative lifestyles and the people that live those lifestyles ... it's just not your brand of christianity ... yours in more radical version of christianity...

You all are so high and mighty.*
Whatever you big baby! someone calls you a bigot, which you admit to being ..... and you cry foul! Are you here to talk about religion or alternative lifestyles

It's time to do a reality check and search your own hearts.* I wonder what it feels like to be so high up there in your perfect world.*
Who says our so called world is perfect ... far from it but we are trying to be open minded and make it better ... what is your close mindedness doing?

To even attempt to judge me without even knowing me.*
What's to know? You said all that needed to be said to convict you of bigotry

That's quite presumptuous on your part.
No presumptions ... we can all read your words .... nothing shades of gray about what you think about "homos" now is there ...

Why don't you people get a clue?* Come down out of your ivory towers.*

And to address your statement Deb.* I have several friends that aren't white.* One of whom, I'd consider to be like a brother to me.* So, does that make me only half a bigot?* How do you even know that I am white.* I do have a Spanish last name.* But, you don't know that I might be black.* You just assume.* You know what assuming does?* Makes an ass of u & me.* So think before you go off half cocked like that.*

Bullsh*t ... I was checking out the depth of your bigotry ... so you admit to only be discriminate about people with alternative lifestyles

And let me tell you something, Ducky.* You're as much a bigot as you claim I am.* With your anti-religious rantings.* To all of you who sit in judgement of me,.. that's like the pot calling the kettle black.* Your prejudices are just as bad as you think mine are.* Thanks for the education though.* Now I know what kind of two faced hypocrites I'm dealing with also.* Oh, it's all good as long as I agree with you.* But when I disagree, then the rocks start to fly.* Like I said, HYPOCRITES.* Have a nice life.* You all deserve each other.

Buzz ..... I believe you bible says not to judge lest yea be judged .... but "if it's too hot in the kicthen then get out on the porch with the rest of the pups" .... at least that's what they say in my redneck part of the world .... tell me where this deep seated hate for "homos" comes from? didn't you say you were a long haul truck triver? what happened? when you were a long haul trucker ... did one of the "lot lizards" give you a little "surprise" one time? Is that why you are so homophobic?

buzz2 · 05-02-2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by buzz2

Ya know?* It figures.* A bunch of agnostics and atheists like yourselves.* I seen it coming.* I should have known that all of you were OK with the whole HOMO thing.*

yep quite okay with the whole homo thing ... I can even can live with the whole redneck thing .....

First off.* What makes you all the moral authority?
Okay ... so what makes you the moral authority?

Who are you to sit and pass judgement on me?
Dude by your very words you are a bigot ... you never did answer the black man white woman thing .... so is just okay for you to have a black friend but him not marry your daughter?

I'm sure that if you all searched your own hearts, you'd find something there that others might not think was too cool either.
yep, I hate rapists, pedophiles, parents that beat their kids, parents that keep their kids ignorant ....* anything along those lines ...

I'd be willing to bet that each and every one of you have some sort of prejudice within you.*
Only against certain vegetables

Like your prejudice towards Christians.
Give us a break we aren't prejudiced against you, we just don't see eye to eye with you .... I wouldn't tell my son he couldn't marry a christian or that their beliefs are wrong ... they are just not my beliefs*

So don't you dare sit on your high horses and think you're better than me.
where did any of us say we were better than you .... get your boxers out of a twist .... not one person said that they were better than you ..... jeez oh pete buzz! kinda defensive aren't you?

Because you're not.* Or don't you put your hatred and resentment of Christians on the same plane as my disdain for homos and the way it is flaunted in our faces?
Plenty of christians are tolerant of alternative lifestyles and the people that live those lifestyles ... it's just not your brand of christianity ... yours in more radical version of christianity...

You all are so high and mighty.*
Whatever you big baby! someone calls you a bigot, which you admit to being ..... and you cry foul! Are you here to talk about religion or alternative lifestyles

It's time to do a reality check and search your own hearts.* I wonder what it feels like to be so high up there in your perfect world.*
Who says our so called world is perfect ... far from it but we are trying to be open minded and make it better ... what is your close mindedness doing?

To even attempt to judge me without even knowing me.*
What's to know? You said all that needed to be said to convict you of bigotry

That's quite presumptuous on your part.
No presumptions ... we can all read your words .... nothing shades of gray about what you think about "homos" now is there ...

Why don't you people get a clue?* Come down out of your ivory towers.*

And to address your statement Deb.* I have several friends that aren't white.* One of whom, I'd consider to be like a brother to me.* So, does that make me only half a bigot?* How do you even know that I am white.* I do have a Spanish last name.* But, you don't know that I might be black.* You just assume.* You know what assuming does?* Makes an ass of u & me.* So think before you go off half cocked like that.*

Bullsh*t ... I was checking out the depth of your bigotry ... so you admit to only be discriminate about people with alternative lifestyles

And let me tell you something, Ducky.* You're as much a bigot as you claim I am.* With your anti-religious rantings.* To all of you who sit in judgement of me,.. that's like the pot calling the kettle black.* Your prejudices are just as bad as you think mine are.* Thanks for the education though.* Now I know what kind of two faced hypocrites I'm dealing with also.* Oh, it's all good as long as I agree with you.* But when I disagree, then the rocks start to fly.* Like I said, HYPOCRITES.* Have a nice life.* You all deserve each other.

Buzz ..... I believe you bible says not to judge lest yea be judged .... but "if it's too hot in the kicthen then get out on the porch with the rest of the pups" .... at least that's what they say in my redneck part of the world .... tell me where this deep seated hate for "homos" comes from? didn't you say you were a long haul truck triver? what happened? when you were a long haul trucker ... did one of the "lot lizards" give you a little "surprise" one time? Is that why you are so homophobic?

Yes Deb. She's old enough to make her own decisions. If she's gonna marry a person of color, that's her choice not mine. My only hope is that the man treats her well, with respect and honor and they love each other. And that he can support her if need be. But, I think that, that's what every parent wants for their children. To have a better life than they might have had.
As for the "lot lizard" comment. I never bothered with them. Too dangerous. Disease, muggings, even murders. Not willing to test the waters there. I'm not that adventurous.
As for the other stuff, I guess I stand by what I said. Just so we're clear, the word "homo" was used not as a dig. Just shortened the whole word. That's all. But, label me as you wish. My position is solid on that subject.
Now I've grown tired of it. "That's all I have to say about that".

Og · 05-02-2008, 09:30 AM

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Think again buddy. Maybe YOU might think you're half gay. Not ME. Those with that sort of view I believe are what we used to call confused. And I didn't say I couldn't accept it. I said, I don't want them prancing around like little fairies in front of me and my kids and grand-kids. STOP THROWING THEIR "GAYNESS" IN OUR FACES. Then they're infringing on my rights to not have to see such outrageous a spectacle. And who's doing this "research" anyway? No one ever asked me anything of that sort. Maybe they just confined it to the west coast.

Hrmm... What exactly is "confused" about loving someone for the human being that they are (bisexuality) as opposed to first differentiating based on chromosomal makeup (i.e. x vs y).

To me it seems like an enlightened approach. There's plenty of other opportunities for procreation in the modern world.

Do you have any rationale behind the argument that gay/bisexual people are confused?

Og · 05-02-2008, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by buzz2

STOP THROWING THEIR "GAYNESS" IN OUR FACES. Then they're infringing on my rights to not have to see such outrageous a spectacle.

Didn't see this right guaranteed anywhere in the constitution. In fact, I seem to see their rights to freedom of expression explicitly protected.

duck · 05-02-2008, 11:49 AM

I always amazes me how, when people are the ones that open the door for strong criticism, and get what they set themselves up for (especially after slinging the mud as this person has done with the condemnations, etc.) and cry like a whiny pup when we take them down a notch.

The times, they are a-changing Buzz. A whole new level of tolerance is required to exist and thrive in this nation, and you had better get with the times.

Like Og pointed out, the Constitution protects everybody, not just straight, Christian, white men.

xxkayxx · 05-02-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by buzz2

Ya know? It figures. A bunch of agnostics and atheists like yourselves. I seen it coming. I should have known that all of you were OK with the whole HOMO thing. First off. What makes you all the moral authority? Who are you to sit and pass judgement on me? I'm sure that if you all searched your own hearts, you'd find something there that others might not think was too cool either. I'd be willing to bet that each and every one of you have some sort of prejudice within you. Like your prejudice towards Christians. So don't you dare sit on your high horses and think you're better than me. Because you're not. Or don't you put your hatred and resentment of Christians on the same plane as my disdain for homos and the way it is flaunted in our faces? You all are so high and mighty. It's time to do a reality check and search your own hearts. I wonder what it feels like to be so high up there in your perfect world. To even attempt to judge me without even knowing me. That's quite presumptuous on your part. Why don't you people get a clue? Come down out of your ivory towers.
And to address your statement Deb. I have several friends that aren't white. One of whom, I'd consider to be like a brother to me. So, does that make me only half a bigot? How do you even know that I am white. I do have a Spanish last name. But, you don't know that I might be black. You just assume. You know what assuming does? Makes an ass of u & me. So think before you go off half cocked like that.
And let me tell you something, Ducky. You're as much a bigot as you claim I am. With your anti-religious rantings. To all of you who sit in judgement of me,.. that's like the pot calling the kettle black. Your prejudices are just as bad as you think mine are. Thanks for the education though. Now I know what kind of two faced hypocrites I'm dealing with also. Oh, it's all good as long as I agree with you. But when I disagree, then the rocks start to fly. Like I said, HYPOCRITES. Have a nice life. You all deserve each other.

You have this constant habit of being overly insulting in your criticism, and then turning to being overly forgiving when someone responds to all these insults you throw around. Not telling you how to live your life, but you should really think about your actions firsthand...it might stop you from going a little bit overboard. Don't take this the wrong way, I'm just trying to help. =) there's a difference between criticism and "constructive criticism"

**debdodd** · 05-02-2008, 04:42 PM

he's already said what he thinks about what a young kid has to say ... you have about as much chance getting him to listen to your good advice as I do telling him that being a "homo" isn't a deadly disease ...

save your fingers, he's already said he doesn't care what any of us think .... he is so closed minded about "beliefs" and isn't interested in our ideas only about spreading his ideas .... but that's okay (for him) .....

I think you should spend your time chatting with more worthwhile individuals, someone who will stimulate your intellect not bore you to tears with the closed minded, repetitive rhetoric ... no offense buzz ... just saving her from getting carpel tunnel syndrome on a worthless cause. Deb

PsiCop · 05-02-2008, 06:51 PM

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Which would you rather have? Extreme liberal, moderate liberal, or slightly liberal? That's what you get with Obama, Clinton, or McCain. I don't like either one of them.
I don't like Obama because of his bigotry. Don't like "The Hilldabeast" because of her socialized healthcare plan. Don't like McCain because he's not being totally honest about his policies and his beliefs, judging from his past record of liberalism. Trying to pass himself off as a conservative.
No one even knows what Obama is really about. What has he accomplished in his short time in the senate? Nothing. He's the most liberal person in the senate. Even worse than Kennedy. That's BAD!!
As for Hillary,.. her record speaks for itself. Just look at her past. When she was helping to run her husband's presidency, she helped to screw that up. Like "HillaryCare". What a JOKE that was. I don't want "socialized medicine". I want to be able to choose which Dr. I'm going to get care from. Not the government making that choice for me. Under her plan, if I go and get a Dr. on my own and pay for it out of my own pocket, both the Dr. and I would be prosecuted for breaking the law. Socialized healthcare doesn't work. Just ask the Canadians.
As for McCain,.. look at the McCain/Feingold law. Or the McCain/Kennedy education law. Too darn liberal for me. He likes to make nicey nice with the libs on the other side of the aisle. Not very conservative. Now he's trying to pass himself off as conservative though. So, you can't trust any of them to be honest. Although I think McCain would be the best choice when it comes to national defense. That's it.
So, whom would yall choose and why?
Maybe one of you could tell me what all the fuss is about with Obama. Why is he so appealing? 'Cause the way I see it, he's just be another Jimmy Carter weak kneed, coward. An appeaser to the tyrants of the world. Totally ineffective. And Hillary,.. Well, she just is plain scary.
Maybe I'll go with a third party candidate. If there is one. Hopefully a Libertarian.

I don't like any of them because the "two-party system," which produced them, is NOT really a "two-party" system. It's really ONE party ... a cabal or elite of folks who are plundering the nation ... cleverly cloaked behind a veneer of ideological opposition.

Sound paranoid? Like a conspiracy theory or something? Perhaps the above is too strong a description. I have no doubt that SOME of our leaders really do believe in the ideologies they espouse and truly consider themselves opposed to the other. I guess what I mean is that, for all intents and purposes, they may as well all be working together to plunder the US because the bottom line is, that's what they're effectively doing.

At any rate, they all have their heads up their behinds about some things. The idea that healthcare can be reformed by the "free market" as McCain and others on the Right suppose, is ludicrous on its face because, aside from some elective procedures, the "free market" never comes into play. Lives are at stake so there is no chance for someone to avail him/herself of "market forces." Markets work only when there's competition, and the buyer can price suppliers. But when (for example) you're in the throes of a heart attack, you're in no position to "shop around" for the best price on an ambulance, an ER, an attending doctor, etc. Rather than do that, you're just going to call 911 and let them take you to whatever place will save your life at that moment. Shopping around is not possible.

There are many more ideas that both Left and Right espouse which also don't take rocket-science to debunk. In the end, none of them has any vested interest in solving any problem, because once they solved problems, they put themselves out of work ... and they're not about to do that!