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Old 05-01-2008, 10:05 AM   #21 (permalink)
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so if being gay is bad I'll bet you think having a sex change is way off the charts in being wrong .....
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Old 05-01-2008, 01:24 PM   #22 (permalink)
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But, the problem with your position is, that you are just plain wrong.

It IS perfectly normal for a percentage of the population to be homosexual, and we had better start getting used to that fact. I teach tolerance and acceptance in my classroom and that most certainly includes the gay students!!!

Matter of fact, the current research shows that very few people are completely gay or completely heterosexual. Most of us are at least partially bisexual.
Think again buddy. Maybe YOU might think you're half gay. Not ME. Those with that sort of view I believe are what we used to call confused. And I didn't say I couldn't accept it. I said, I don't want them prancing around like little fairies in front of me and my kids and grand-kids. STOP THROWING THEIR "GAYNESS" IN OUR FACES. Then they're infringing on my rights to not have to see such outrageous a spectacle. And who's doing this "research" anyway? No one ever asked me anything of that sort. Maybe they just confined it to the west coast.
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Old 05-01-2008, 01:30 PM   #23 (permalink)
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so if being gay is bad I'll bet you think having a sex change is way off the charts in being wrong .....
NO. I wouldn't call it wrong. Those folks who choose to have that done are just plain ill. They have a severe mental condition. No matter if they have the operation, it'll NEVER change the fact that they're STILL what they started out as. Just plus or minus some parts. No amount of surgery can change what God has made. That's all.
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Old 05-01-2008, 03:59 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Son, if you aren't about the worst kind of bigot I have ever seen...

I don't even want to know what you think of other issues.
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Old 05-01-2008, 06:40 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I concur with duck .... you and Archie bunker are cut out of the same mold .... you are clearly clueless about gender identity and being gay. I have transgendered friends both male and female that you would never know they were one or the other. They are sane, loving people, most have kids and their kids are what you would consider normal .... they don't have "cooties" and sexual orientation isn't "catching" .... if you are this bigoted about sexual orientation ..... I'll bet you aren't too happy with people marrying other races ... I'll bet seeing a black man and a white woman together makes your skin crawl ...... Texans .... have you always been one?
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Old 05-01-2008, 06:48 PM   #26 (permalink)
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sex ed in schools is benifical, biology and socialogy ext rolled into one course/part of a course basicly. some parents aren't very good at communicating what needs to be said, also the school has different ways that might get the information across more efficently. when i took health class it was more about how to take care of your self and the possibilitys then anything. i didn't feel like i was being told what to believe or think. it just seemed like information about the body and the mind along with statistics to me.

also about gays, i think theres genetic causes, but i think it can be influenced by social pressures as well. also that research about most people being partly Bi makes sense to me. social pressures could come in to make people repress some impulses deemed not acceptable by... something. eventually domestication sets in and thoses impulses are repressed. homophobia could be a severe reaction to even faint hints of homosexuality if enough negitivity is associated with it. or it could just be that the person finds it repulsive, which two guys together i do find gross, but i think its ok to do, i just find it repulsive to see two guys doing anything. however i'm cool with them getting married, and i feel like they should be able to hold hands and such in front of me even if i find the situation akward. similar to how i feel i should be able to hold hands with my girl and such in public.
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odd how guys will think watching two chicks together in a little girl on girl action is titillating but two guys together grosses them out ...

to each there own is what I believe .... I'm hetero but many of my friends are not ... never impacted our friendship ... even if they expressed an interest in me ... they always respected me when I said thanks but no thanks ... still friends with 'em ....
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i'll probally be the same way
about two girls, theres twice the goods and maby a chance for a crazy night.
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you're a junior wildman! I still find it odd
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you're a junior wildman! I still find it odd
And I'm a dirty old man.
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