LadyLuck

This is going to sound completely retarded, and I'm only speaking for myself, but I would personally have felt guilty if my offender had been given the death penalty because of his actions against me. I think you're over simplifying the issue by saying "Just kill them!". For one, there are different levels of severity of the crime, molestation isn't the same as rape, and neither are always associated with murder. I don't consider death a fair punishment for such crimes, logically I cannot equate the two. I don't have a perfect solution, but what if the victims were able to propose consequences for the crimes against them, and then the jury could approve or disapprove their proposal. That way, the victims wouldn't have to feel responsible for punishments that are too harsh, or angry for ones that are too lenient. It's probably one of those ideas that could never work in real life, but in my mind it's a better solution than the death penalty.

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debdodd

I have no idea who draco is ...

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pseudonous

I agree the death penalty should be allowed.

Why should I pay for their incarceration? I don't have a desire to see them tortured. I wouldn't even care if somebody else wanted to foot the bill for their incarceration. I just don't think it is ethical for anyone to steal my money to support someone like that. Personally, I can't understand people that want to force their morals on others.

SirArthur

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracon

Draconian laws: Means laws for which penalty is far over the hazard of the crime.
Eg. steal a bread to give death penalty.

Legend cast that Draco, not only didn't made Athens 1 inch safer, but also became a victim of his own laws from where comes the Roman Jurisprudence "Patere Quam Ispe Fecisiti Legem" (pay by the law you made) and "Maximum ius est saepe maxima iniuria" (The bigger the penalty the bigger the harm).

A nice fellow, he would second your thoughts on a blink.

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pseudonous

SirArthur,

Surely you are not suggesting the death penalty is to harsh of a penalty for someone who rapes and kills children.

SirArthur

Well, make us two retards them. I share your view.

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SirArthur

If just rapes, it is. If kills well... the case gets more serious.

Actually on my country he wouldn't be sent to death penalty, since we have no such thing, but the odds for him to come out of jail alive are pretty few. We had one case alike about 10 years ago, on the first night he went to the hospital with a broom stuck in his arse (obviously nobody saw nothing; stacking a broom on someone's privates is hard to see, ya know...) ... well we was convicted to 18 years of jail but is already dead anyway.

But I stand against Death Penalty no matter what.

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pseudonous

I see where you are coming from. It just seems to me if someone can't be rehabilitated and keeps comitting serious crimes the death penalty should be allowed. I don't think this out of a desire to torture or anything. However, if someone likes to mangle people (cut of a few body parts or what have you) and can not be cured, then killing them is a potentially cheaper way to solve the problem than permanent incarceration.

SirArthur

Each case is a case. It's hard to judge or establish such things on a lump sum or in general lines. For some death penalty will be far too much, for others rather throw them to the people and let the people tie him up to a tree with gasoline...

I think one that under judgment for be a molester and says things so stupid as "s/he (the child) provoked me", is a lost case a real crackpot will never regenerate so have to be under surveillance his entire life or using your "easy way".

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pseudonous

I agree it is very difficult to make generalizations and each case needs to be handled independently.