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Old 05-17-2007, 10:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've recently put my finger on something, and I wanted to share with you all. It seems mundane and that everyone should already know, but I feel like I have found a much deeper appreciation towards Uniqueness. Everything in the universe, even the universe its self, is unique. Every person and animal on Earth is unique, from overall appearance to small details on the face, sense of humor, intelligence, personality, etc. Look at the beauty nature can blindly create. Is it not amazing?

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Old 05-17-2007, 11:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yep I agree. Maybe thats how people rebel against the Universe by trying to destroy their Uniqueness!
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Old 05-19-2007, 07:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Romans 1:18-20

If you have a Bible you can go to Romans 1:18-20 or click on the link below and it will take you directly to these passages. Why would I send you to this link? Well it addresses the post about uniqueness. Pay attention to all three verses, but really draw in on verse 20. You may give credit to nature, but I thought you would enjoy what the Bible says.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...-20&version=31

Also, this entire forum is surronded by the idea of an existnece or possibility of the existence of a diety or many diety's. Why would we be so interested?

I'm sure the main question surronding the existence of God is the "purpose of life." A second might be on the possibilities of an afterlife. The following link is something that will be helpful in understanding the Christian theology.

Don't sigh just yet. Let me offer one suggestion... lay down any preconceived ideas. Get pride out of the way and say...I'm open to listen.

Have your speakers on and be prepared to see if you are "Good Enough" to go to heaven.

http://www.wayofthemaster.com/goodperson.shtml
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That's pretty much the same post you put in the other thread..man don't preach.
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Uniqueness is what I love about life. You'll never see the same thing twice when you look out your window.
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If you have a Bible you can go to Romans 1:18-20 or click on the link below and it will take you directly to these passages. Why would I send you to this link? Well it addresses the post about uniqueness. Pay attention to all three verses, but really draw in on verse 20. You may give credit to nature, but I thought you would enjoy what the Bible says.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...-20&version=31

Also, this entire forum is surronded by the idea of an existnece or possibility of the existence of a diety or many diety's. Why would we be so interested?

I'm sure the main question surronding the existence of God is the "purpose of life." A second might be on the possibilities of an afterlife. The following link is something that will be helpful in understanding the Christian theology.

Don't sigh just yet. Let me offer one suggestion... lay down any preconceived ideas. Get pride out of the way and say...I'm open to listen.

Have your speakers on and be prepared to see if you are "Good Enough" to go to heaven.

http://www.wayofthemaster.com/goodperson.shtml
Actually this Forum is about the existence or non-existence of a god or gods. Simply put it's about the truth for me anyway since it is quite clear for me that there isn't a religion out there that makes any sense compared to the reality we exist in. Whether the PROOF shows that the divine doesn't exist or exists that is the ultimate goal... at least for me.

I don't understand Christians that come in here and start preaching nonsense about the Bible. It seems mostly obvious that people that have chosen an agnostic approach to life have decided that world religion is a great hoax. The people that fall away from perpetuating their search for the Truth of the Universe have done it for social, economic, and political ideals. While neither of these have to do with reality except in our herd instinct it just evades the real question of Truth. Proof is always better than Blind Faith for the true investigator.
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Chrisnbales;

If you appreciate the uniqueness of everyone, why would you believe in a book that espouses and supports the claim that God will eternally torment a unique being simply because that being does not believe in Christ or has not followed the LAW to the letter all their life.

What kind of God is that?

What sort of punishment is that?

What kind of Book is that?
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Chrisnbales;

If you appreciate the uniqueness of everyone, why would you believe in a book that espouses and supports the claim that God will eternally torment a unique being simply because that being does not believe in Christ or has not followed the LAW to the letter all their life.

What kind of God is that?

What sort of punishment is that?

What kind of Book is that?
Who told you that's what would send a person to eternal punishment? Do you think that's what the Bible says?
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mister_lister, thanks for the touching outreach but I've been there with Christianity, for a few years actually. In the end Christianity didn't give me the answers I sought and still seek. Christianity is nothing more than a product of man's arrogance and imagination, the desire to have all answers and the inablity to cope with ignorance. The human mind is simply incapable of understanding the world we see in its entirety. Why not just sit back and stare in awe at the structure of it, at the sheer amazement the universe presents to our curious eye? That should be enough. Don't make up illogical stories and expect me to believe they're the word of my Great Creator. That's blasphemy to mother nature.
So why don't YOU join my side instead?
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mister_lister, thanks for the touching outreach but I've been there with Christianity, for a few years actually. In the end Christianity didn't give me the answers I sought and still seek. Christianity is nothing more than a product of man's arrogance and imagination, the desire to have all answers and the inablity to cope with ignorance. The human mind is simply incapable of understanding the world we see in its entirety. Why not just sit back and stare in awe at the structure of it, at the sheer amazement the universe presents to our curious eye? That should be enough. Don't make up illogical stories and expect me to believe they're the word of my Great Creator. That's blasphemy to mother nature.
So why don't YOU join my side instead?
Deer in the headlights!

sit back and enjoy... God want's us to do that, but if you don't persue Him, than judgement day will be a terrible sight for you. Don't be caught ONLY looking at his wonderful creation and than discover that when you die you're receiving His wrath. The Bible tells us that you are either a child of God or a child of wrath. It's not works or church attendence that grants you eternal life. The Bible say that is by grace we are saved, not by works, so that NO man can boast.

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