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03-21-2008, 11:07 AM
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| straight edge Ok, im just wondering about other peoples opinions are on being straight edge, and how many of you are yourselves  I've been straight edge since about midyear of 8th grade, so its been about a year for me. I think i decided on it because i finally realized that being an alcoholic, like my father, wasnt something i wanted to be, and ive alwasy thought smoking was kinda pointless. yes, i know that theres evidence that drinking alittle bit of red wine can actually be good for you, but becoming addicted to a substance that i can easily avoid from being addicted to proves pointless to me. Besides plenty of things are good for you...
Well, anyways, i decided a long time ago that I'd wait till marriage to engage in sexual activity, mostly to avoid a shotgun wedding like my moms. As you can see, most of my decisions i choose to avoid making the same mistakes as people have made that i know. As for drugs, theyre just as pointless as deciding to smoke. my opinion anyways, and i can safely say most people would agree with me since the media and government show doing drugs as strictly taboo, which is why we have d.a.r.e. as well as all the various other organizations that stess the point that drugs, alcohol and tabacco are bad for your health, even though its still legal to smoke,  As you can see from past events, making alcohol illegal didnt quite solve anything, so im sure its the same for tobacco  Really, its just peoples choice how they choose to live their own lives, which actually took me awhile to figure out =/
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03-21-2008, 01:50 PM
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| Just make sure you're thinking for yourself and that you don't get an unhealthy mob dynamic going. I always thought straight edge was kind of elitist. I would think that Jesus would have found inner strength and been amongst the real people instead of forming some enclave of "holier-than-thou" dudes in leather w/ chains and WWJD tattoos 
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03-21-2008, 02:19 PM
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| In the spirit of the original post ...these are directions I have taken in life. alcohol - yes smoking - luckily every time I tried to smoke I had consumed copious/sufficient alcohol. The two did not mix and aversion therapy did its trick. promiscuity - neither the need nor the opportunity have arisen drugs - no; unlike a certain eminent president I have not smoked marijuana and I did not not-inhale. Never trusted myself with drugs if the truth beknown. Drink coffee tea etc though.... religion - dabbled extremely mildly, peaked 37 y ago.
But I'm far from convinced (looking back) that these are choices I have made, more likely I have been influenced/programmed by the company I have kept, experiences I have had, books I have read .... etc. The sraight and narrow (edge) is just part of a society's ever changing set of rules ...... so kay's straight edge bends with time and location.
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03-21-2008, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Og Just make sure you're thinking for yourself and that you don't get an unhealthy mob dynamic going. I always thought straight edge was kind of elitist. I would think that Jesus would have found inner strength and been amongst the real people instead of forming some enclave of "holier-than-thou" dudes in leather w/ chains and WWJD tattoos  | LOL, yh, i doubt that would ever happen, since most of my family and friends drink and or smoke, and i dont think of myself as being any better than them.
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03-23-2008, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by xxkayxx Ok, im just wondering about other peoples opinions are on being straight edge, and how many of you are yourselves  ... | I made a promise to myself when I was 14 not to even think about trying alcohol, tobacco, or any drugs of any kind, and I've kept that promise to this day. I'm sure some people think I am being elitist or something, so I make a point to only mention this if someone asks.
Actually, my best friends are the ones who are hardest on me about it. They love to go out and have a drink, and I go along, and they always become very disappointed when I refuse yet again when they offer to buy me a drink. They're absolutely right: just one drink wont cause any harm. I guess at my age, it's not peer pressure but the desire to enjoy the company of my closest and dearest friends without compromising my principles, even if those principles may be a bit silly.
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04-21-2008, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by xxkayxx Quote:
Originally Posted by Og Just make sure you're thinking for yourself and that you don't get an unhealthy mob dynamic going. I always thought straight edge was kind of elitist. I would think that Jesus would have found inner strength and been amongst the real people instead of forming some enclave of "holier-than-thou" dudes in leather w/ chains and WWJD tattoos  | LOL, yh, i doubt that would ever happen, since most of my family and friends drink and or smoke, and i dont think of myself as being any better than them. | There's nothing wrong with thinking you are better than someone else is. Some people are better at drinking beer and smoking cigarettes, some people are better at singing and dancing, while other people are better at using logic and sound reason. Point is we are all better than others in some way, but the important thing is that we choose wisely the way in which we are better. |
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04-22-2008, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Treklis Point is we are all better than others in some way, but the important thing is that we choose wisely the way in which we are better. | and I am better at choosing a way in which I'm better?  
better implies a good and a bad (in a moral sense).
I would have stopped at "....but the important thing is that we choose wisely."
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04-22-2008, 04:51 PM
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| Not neccessarily. For instance, a tree is better at providing shade than a flower is, or I'm better at reasoning than a cow. |
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04-22-2008, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Treklis Not neccessarily. For instance, a tree is better at providing shade than a flower is, or I'm better at reasoning than a cow. | You are assuming a purpose.
I would agree the tree sheds more shade but is it a better shade?
Similarly a cow's reasoning ...
Anthropomorphising the cow for a moment ...
The cow might argue that all your reasoning capabilty would be a total waste on being a cow.
Now if you said that your reasoning capability was better than mine, then we could have a debate ... 
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04-23-2008, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Treklis Quote:
Originally Posted by xxkayxx Quote:
Originally Posted by Og Just make sure you're thinking for yourself and that you don't get an unhealthy mob dynamic going. I always thought straight edge was kind of elitist. I would think that Jesus would have found inner strength and been amongst the real people instead of forming some enclave of "holier-than-thou" dudes in leather w/ chains and WWJD tattoos  | LOL, yh, i doubt that would ever happen, since most of my family and friends drink and or smoke, and i dont think of myself as being any better than them. | There's nothing wrong with thinking you are better than someone else is. Some people are better at drinking beer and smoking cigarettes, some people are better at singing and dancing, while other people are better at using logic and sound reason. Point is we are all better than others in some way, but the important thing is that we choose wisely the way in which we are better. | People that think they're better than someone else because of the choices they make are generally stuck up, and stuck up people suck 
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