romansh

So the bible only has snippets of value?

I agree whole heartedly regarding the literal truth of the Bible ...some bits and pieces may or may not be historically accurate. For me it's not even worth debating. But I can't help seeing value in the metaphors found within the Bible?

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AB517

Mine were not brother and sister.

They owned that store

"Two Guys"

Not that there is anything wrong with that

Skepticologist

Neither can I (help seeing value in the metaphors found within the Bible). There's a lot of truth in those metaphors. It's just not the complete and total truth it, or any other religious text, claims to be. That's because, regardless of the purity of their inceptions, they've all been adulterated with various political and cultural expediencies that water them down based on the times and places they were developed. More basically, they all represent a "leap of faith" in an inherently illogical effort to have a single system that provides answers to all of life's questions.

None of them do, and it's my guess that none of them ever will. But I remain open to the possibility despite how far short such attempts have historically fallen.

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romansh

agreed .... there is no such thing as the complete truth (another thread)
Not even the stuff I write on this forum.

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Katnip89

Of course, we're all playin

So my question would be kind sir, If you could give me a practical version of the Genesis ... How'd it go? Because I always tweaked a few things and it was good enough for me, back in CCD

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romansh

A devout agnostic's point of view.
1) God made the universe, Earth the stuff on it including the Norwegian fjiords
2) Mankind learnt stuff, particularly good and evil; this was really a bad move.

AB ...is this right? No doubt missed something?

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AB517

I think you got it.

I was never more awe stuck then when I went into a Glacier valley.

Learning was ok; I think it got bad when we (man) started to think we know it all now.

I would change Genius to

Genesis Ch-1

(1) See appendix A

Apendix A
Would you go to a Math book to see how to cook a Toffu fer your mum?

Read the rock record doppie!


Was that last part a dig?
Do I talk too much?

Katnip89

hahahahahhaha

I love this thread, anything new guys?

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The guilt of man shall be his downfall, and Honesty shall right his wrongs - Me, Myself, and I

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George S. Patton

to_hobbes

If I were a Christian, I might say that Adam and Eve were not like ordinary humans as we know them today so you can't prove that Adam and Eve didn't exist using the knowledge we have now. So that's why God gave us the Bible and sent his Son, to tell us what happened in the past, and how to worship Him in the present, that way we can be with Him for ever in the future.

I'm not a Christian, but I know enough dogma to carry on an argument. I can tell you one thing though, the Christian argument has been lost before it even started.

Every single last Christian idea rests on the fact that the Bible is absolutely true. That's why they get so pissed off when you tell them that the Bible is just some inaccurate book full of nonsense. The smarter Christians know that if the Bible were wrong, everything they would not be able to come up with any good reason for believing in Jesus.

If you argue with Christians, every argument they use comes from some interpretation of the Bible. So every argument always ends up being about whether or not the Bible is true.

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Katnip89

Bravo, Bravo.

(i'm giving you a standing ovation).

That is the exact answer I was looking for. Hence the reason why I can't argue with my family about the same topic. Because they know that they are wrong, but they don't have the gall to try to prove me wrong without making an ass out of themselves.

Cheers mate.

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The guilt of man shall be his downfall, and Honesty shall right his wrongs - Me, Myself, and I

If you tell people where to go, but not how to get there, you'll be amazed at the results.
George S. Patton