Dunno

OK Now I'm confused

Didn't Jesus say he came not to abolish the laws?

Symposium

Sorry, so so so sorry.

There no are laws in the bible unless you are a Christian.

Even the laws of physics could be flawed if someone found a rule against them.

But Christianity is written. Write? Right? Right.

Luckily we have free will. Just because what goes up must go down is true, doesn't mean those that sin must go to hell.

So sorry. Count your own before mine. I think that's in the bible, right? Judge not lest ye be judged?

Or did you forget about that part.

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shadowind

what evidence?

the trees tell not of god,
the air tells not of god
i tell not of god
it is only from other humans that i hear of god.
god has no proof that i know of
if i missed something
let me know.
for evidence of god i'll like to see,
for it would be something new indeed.

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remember "for mere impulse of appetite is slavery, while obedience to a law which we prescirbe to oursleves is liberty"-rousseau: the concept of the general will "if we can not reconcile all opions, then let us endeavour to unite all hearts."-?"to be is to be perceived"-? "‘We can be as honest as we are ignorant. If we are, when asked what is beyond the horizon of the known, we must say that we do not know’-Robert G. Ingersoll

Skepticologist

I beg to disagree.

The laws of physics and gravity are demonstrable in terms of the scientific method. The laws of the bible, while many of them were relevant to the time they were written, are not demonstrable 2,000+ years later. Today, they simply make so sense.

It might seem faithful to continue to perpetuate them, but if they no longer have any logiocal basis, only the blind will continue to purport that they are anything other than antiquated and irrelevant.

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AB517

With this short of a post I am uncertain what you mean.

The Bible, and other books of that time period that where not selected by the church, clearly state that we are here for each other and ourselves. They state to start within you, know yourself, and love yourself. They then speak of us doing the same for others.

To love yourself and others is as far from idolatry as you are from infinity. It starts here, on earth, with each other. This is the temple, it is where the rubber meets the road

AB517

one small problem.
They do tell us, and it is something very old indeed.

Symposium

And I think I added but you forgot to read.

Judge not lest ye be judged.

Right? Or does the 'book of truth' not also say that?

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victotoro_

I don't find any overwhelming evidence of God's existence anywhere.
I mean, if Jesus (who is also God?) could heal a blind man, why not heal blindness all together? I see more people dying than people who are miraculously cured of their diseases. I honestly believe that the bible (which is mostly a work of fiction) has been so horribly mis-interpreted by the Catholic church its ridiculous.
I would love to be shown some evidence of God's existence.

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shadowind

then either i am deaf, or you hear things

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remember "for mere impulse of appetite is slavery, while obedience to a law which we prescirbe to oursleves is liberty"-rousseau: the concept of the general will "if we can not reconcile all opions, then let us endeavour to unite all hearts."-?"to be is to be perceived"-? "‘We can be as honest as we are ignorant. If we are, when asked what is beyond the horizon of the known, we must say that we do not know’-Robert G. Ingersoll

shadowind

also believing that the trees and rocks and such are proof of god is simply the idea of god reaserting it self,

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remember "for mere impulse of appetite is slavery, while obedience to a law which we prescirbe to oursleves is liberty"-rousseau: the concept of the general will "if we can not reconcile all opions, then let us endeavour to unite all hearts."-?"to be is to be perceived"-? "‘We can be as honest as we are ignorant. If we are, when asked what is beyond the horizon of the known, we must say that we do not know’-Robert G. Ingersoll