El_Mariachi64

And why shouldn't I? What do you think is honorable? Is anything worth fighting for? Anything that you hold with high esteem? If you decide that you don't care about your responsibilities and your entire family denies you because of what they consider to be selfish and irresponsible acts on your part, your going to blame them for it? That their imposing "their" ideas on to you?

Its not about you, its about them. And when you realize that, then you will change your mind. This relative world that you live in doesn't exist. You DO live among people who care for you, you ARE responsible for yourself and others. If the entire world thought the way you do, completely egotistical and self-centered, then the world would be a lot worse off than it is now. News flash buddy, as screwed up as this world is, there are still people that care about each other.


Because its taking the easy way out. Its a lot easier to give up than to keep fighting, to keep living. Its not because of others, but bad because of themselves. You DO have ideals and dreams and hopes, and to give them all up and be defeated before the fight was even over is not something to admire or respect.

Maybe you think that someone who gives up because of all that troubles them is just as honorable and worthy of remembrance than someone who despite having similar problems held their head high and fought against all odds. Even if the second fails, I would much rather emulate the ones who fought and failed than the ones who gave up before the fight was even over.

Buddha

Maybe you think that someone who gives up because of all that troubles them is just as honorable and worthy of remembrance than someone who despite having similar problems held their head high and fought against all odds. Even if the second fails, I would much rather emulate the ones who fought and failed than the ones who gave up before the fight was even over.[/quote]

What fight, fight against what. I see nothing to fight for that would give my life meaning.

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El_Mariachi64

okay, so we're talking about you?

I don't believe there's nothing in this world that you want. Think back to when you were a kid, who did you admire? Who did you try to be like? One <really corny> example is Optimus Prime. I wanted to be like him. Who did you admire? Why did you admire that person? What qualities made you admire him/her? Do you exhibit those qualities now? If no, why not? What have you done to emulate him/her? Isn't there anything about the way things are that you want changed? Have you tried to make that change?

If you can't find something to live for for yourself, then find someone else to live for. Even if you don't think anyone will miss you if you disappeared, maybe you haven't made yourself be important to someone. Maybe you need to pick a friend, a relative, a group of people, and try to make their lives better in any way you can. Get to know them, their needs, their wants, their dreams, and make making them happy your goal. It doesn't even have to be a person. You can adopt a dog from the shelter. Live so that those poor creatures can experience love and affection. Be there for them. For you to be needed you need to make yourself available to others.

You want someone to reach out to you? You need to reach out and make a difference in someone else.

You want something to fight for? You can make a difference in someone else's life. Go out there and volunteer, make yourself needed. Fight for someone else. Help someone. There's always someone out there who needs help, because if you don't do it, no one will. Take it upon yourself to make a difference. Your life will only have meaning if you give yourself one. You have to choose.

And remember, its not about you. You are only truly alone if you choose to be.

tohn

Yeah, "its not about you, its about them." Why don't you take your own advice. Whether or not life is worth fighting for is each individual's decision. You don't know their circumstances. You have no clue what they are going through, so don't be making blanket judgements about their choices.

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El_Mariachi64

You are truly lost Tohn

Keep thinking the way you do, I honestly don't care. You'll end up alone and depressed, angry and violent. Keep thinking your the victim of everything that happens to you because of "unfair expectations" the rest of the world has on you. Go ahead.

tohn

Just because I think people should be able to control their own lives? You don't understand me at all.

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duck

You have that right, so let me turn this around on you....Follow your own advice!

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El_Mariachi64

Remember Tohn, your not just responsible for yourself. Your responsible for others as well. You don't live in a vacuum.

This. Is. Not. About. You.

Buddha

I guess I asked a question that can't be answerd. Thanks for the input anyway.

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Ignorance, hypocrisy, brutality, the elite
All of which are american dreams

duck

Sorry, fighting with Trolls takes a lot of effort.

You have to make the meaning, I won't and can't do it for you. I can steer you in a direction you might find a meaningful existence, but in the end, only you can make the choice of what is truly meaningful.

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