Buddha

yes i think so, I know this makes me selfish or something.

I am glad to see some constuctive thought in this thread.

Question, if someone thinks of suicide does it automaticly mean they are mentaly ill?

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Skepticologist

I'm genuinely very sorry for your loss. Back in 1982 I lost a son who was born premature and lived for only 10 days. The only time I got to hold him was after he was dead.

With regard to your question, I've come to realize that death is inevitable for all humans. It can happen mercifully quickly, or mercilessly slowly. Despite Dr. Kavorkian's wrong-headed conviction, there are certain measures you and I can take to determine which it will be for us, or for our loved ones.

Past a certain point of viability, there's simply no reason to perpetuate life, and that point is determined by the likelihood of recovery. And at a certain age, there's really no hope of recovery.

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romansh

Thanks Skepti
I shed a tear for your loss and your son.
Thank you for sharing that bittersweet part of you.

I think we may agree after all ... I think??
My point is whether the death is that of our children, our aged, somebody on deathrow, or somebody who dies by their own hand, there is not a good or a bad.

One person's death is not better or worse than another person's.

We may have reasons to grieve, to be angry or to celebrate .... to feel something..... but that is it.

all the best

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noeticcenter

[romansh;22623][quote=Skepticologist;22607] ....
With regard to your question, I've come to realize that death is inevitable for all humans. ........I think we may agree after all ... I think?? My point is....We may have reasons to grieve, to be angry or tocelebrate.... to feel something..... but that is it.

Noetic Response:

When it comes to death the real question to address is WHAT? Not why, how, when, where. Past 74 years of observations and study, since astronomer Fritz Zwicky (1933), has seen mounting evidence that Dark Matter exists to account for the huge missing mass (over 90%) of the universe. Now, not only cosmology but particle physics need nearly massless dark matter particles (axions). It is 'dark' because it is invisible; i.e non-electric.

So, it is not furtive to ask the question is there a Bio Dark Matter of negligible mass and zero charge? Such particles may be as diverse as ordinary particles. Electrons, protons and neutrons may have parallel 'dark' particles coupling with them via spin-spin interaction. Since Chemistry is all about spin and configuration of electrons, it is conceivable that 'dark atoms' and 'dark chemistries' also exist. If so, dark molecules, dark cells, dark organs and a 'dark soma' may all exist coupled to their 'light' (visible) counterparts.

So instead of the 'Hard and Easy' problems of modern 'consciousness studies' there may be 'Dark and Light' problems. The light problem is electric, entropic and transient. The dark problem is non electric and hence nonentropic and intransient. An Invisible Homo Sapiens coupled to the visible human body is a real possibility.

So then, what is death? It is simply a decoupling. The visible entropic body decays and dies. The invisible nonentropic body may endure with all its memories and capacities fully in tact. Unlike the entropic visible body, the invisible body cannnot be destroyed by extremes of anything- heat, cold, rdiation etc, but the feelings and subjectivities will continue to exist in tact.

Does that mean that ghosts of th dead roam about. No. From a scientific point of view when the visible body of say 150 lbs (energy beyond imagination) dies, the invisible body is of that much less energy. That means it will be a t a very negative energy state. It will require enormous energy of cosmic proportion to raise it back. It is very doubtful that any human agency will be able to provide that energy.

As regards so called 'spirit beings' floating around, if at all these reports are reliable and reproduced in differernt situations at different times and attested by different folks, they could be constituted of some kind of nonelectric matter at a positive energy state interacting more efficiently with the 'light' matter.

Real Hell? Real Heaven?

Noetic Center
All Rights Reserved

References
1 MIND MATTER, Noetic Journal (Vol 4, # 4, October 03, Nobelist Sir John Eccles Centennial Edition).
2. NeuroQuantology Journal, June, 2007 & September, 2007, Dark Chemistry or Psychic Spin Pixels?
http://noeticcenter.tripod.com http://noeticcenter.tripod.com/periodictable of personalities
______________________________
All Rights Reserved

Materialism: Ordinary & Extraordinary

The Invisible Homo Sapiens

A plant has life with no known mind of any kind, unless panpsychism is forced into it. Animals may have animal minds, but no human minds. From what we know empirically animals do not know that they are animals in the same way humans identify them. Human minds, no matter how depraved, are still human. But plants, animals and humans are made of the same non-intelligent electrons, protons and neutrons. Animal and human brains are systems of same or similar complex structures and functions. The IQ of Mother Nature is practically zero, until the smallest sentient cell steps in with an instant basic minimum of intricacy for survival and with information exceeding quantitatively that of the Library of Congress. Much work is done on consciousness. However, nobody can confirm a location or absence of a location of consciousness. It is all over as if permeating every cell, yet within the confines of a physical architecture of atomsThere is a level 0 of no sentience in dead matter. There is a Level 1 sentience in plants, level 2 sentience in animals and a level 3 sentience in humans. They are levels. It does not matter what value are assigned to these levels. What matters is there is a detectable, measurable, difference which is extremely consequential and therefore substantial. But it is the same insentient particles that they are all made of, unless some unknown invisible particles X, Y, Z are also present. If Partcle-X is present in level 1 then Particle-Y is additionally present in level 2, and Particle-Z is present in level 3. The successive addition of an extra particle X, Y, Z to the successive level explains the observed gradation of the sentience. Only in humans, electrons, protons and neutrons have all their axion-like counterparts yielding the invisible body. Plants and animals and their subclasses have only incomplete shells of axion-like particles. It does not matter that a some plant cells may have electron and axion in a one to one ratio and a sub-class of this plant cell may have 2 to 1. They are all incomplete shells of axion. Only in humans is there the possibility of a stable invisible body. Biophoton emission seems to support this gradation of stability. There is theoretical prediction that dark matter interaction with ordinary matter produce low frequency photons.
Bowler, Peter J. (1989). Evolution: The History of an Idea. Revised edition. Berkeley: University of California Press. Panchen, Alec L. (1994). "Richard Owen and the Concept of Homology." In Brian K. Hall, ed., Homology: The Hierarchical Basis of Comparative Biology. pp. 21-62. San Diego: Academic Press. Hall, Brian K. (1992). Evolutionary Developmental Biology. London: Chapman & Hall.
September 5, 1932
ORDINARY & EXTRAORDINARY MATERIALISM

The Invisible Homo Sapiens

Chemical bonds exist because of stable Duet or Octet electron configurations and electron spins. If there are three dark matter particles (of negligible mass and zero charge) corresponding to electron, proton and neutron in humans they may form a Dark Aufbau and a hierarchy of dark atoms, dark molecules, dark cells, dark brain etc and a Dark Body parallel to their visible counter parts. Perhaps positive and negative gravitons or an as yet unknown force also may be involved.

What is the point? Nothing much, but a mere Invisible Homo sapiens coupled parallel to the visible human body may exist. How about plants and animals and artificial intelligence (AI)? Plants may have only one type of Dark Matter that corresponding to electrons only. Animals may have an additional type corresponding to protons also. But these will not complete a Dark matter body in plants or animals. AI will have no Dark Matter particles coupled to any visible particles since there is no visible or dark DNA to govern these processes. The decreasing intensities of biophoton emission in the living cells of plants, animals and humans support this view. There is also theoretical basis to show that biophoton emission may be the result of interactions of Dark Matter particles with the visible particles.

The Punctuated Equilibrium was proposed within the framework of Marxism. Gould was a committed Marxist. He sincerely believed that Marxism is the Law of Nature. But Marxism is sudden change- Revolution. Darwinism is gradual change. The two are contrary. So he took the fossil records to defend Marxism eventually. Because the fossil records show sudden change, instant transitions with no missing links. So he came up with Punctuated Equilibrium. But Punctuation is Design and Equilibrium is Order. Darwinism is none of these. It is chance and chaos. The clearly observable taxonomic differences in spite of the close genomic similarities may be accounted for as follows: Type 1 Axions may be universally present across the taxa. Type II Axions may be present in animals and humans only, not in plants. Type III Axions may be present only in Humans.

Thus, only humans will have a complete hierarchy of Dark Bodies resulting in the INVISIBLE HOMO SAPIENS existing parallel to the visible human body. Since axions are non-electric, the axion body will be intransient being not governed by entropy, and will easily go through all material barriers. Animals will have less complete and plants the least complete form of Dark Bodies. Biophoton Emission seems to support this, plants emitting about 10 times more than animals. There are theoretical grounds to show that biophoton emission is a consequence of dark matter interaction with elementary particles. The binding capcity of axions to the visible atoms may exponentially increase with each addition of the axion type, making human dark cells 3^3 = 9 times more stable than plant dark cells.

So, Materialism to be valid must have two components: 1. Ordinary Materialism dealing with Light Matter and 2. Extra Ordinary Materialism dealing with Dark Matter or Dark Materialism.

References
1 MIND MATTER, Noetic Journal (Vol 4, # 4, October 03, Nobelist Sir John Eccles Centennial Edition).
2. NeuroQuantology Journal, June, 2007 & September, 2007, Dark Chemistry or Psychic Spin Pixels?
http://noeticcenter.tripod.com http://noeticcenter.tripod.com/periodictable of personalities

noeticcenter

[romansh;22623][quote=Skepticologist;22607] ....
With regard to your question, I've come to realize that death is inevitable for all humans. ........I think we may agree after all ... I think?? My point is....We may have reasons to grieve, to be angry or tocelebrate.... to feel something..... but that is it.

Noetic Response:

When it comes to death the real question to address is WHAT? Not why, how, when, where. Past 74 years of observations and study, since astronomer Fritz Zwicky (1933), has seen mounting evidence that Dark Matter exists to account for the huge missing mass (over 90%) of the universe. Now, not only cosmology but particle physics need nearly massless dark matter particles (axions). It is 'dark' because it is invisible; i.e non-electric.

So, it is not furtive to ask the question is there a Bio Dark Matter of negligible mass and zero charge? Such particles may be as diverse as ordinary particles. Electrons, protons and neutrons may have parallel 'dark' particles coupling with them via spin-spin interaction. Since Chemistry is all about spin and configuration of electrons, it is conceivable that 'dark atoms' and 'dark chemistries' also exist. If so, dark molecules, dark cells, dark organs and a 'dark soma' may all exist coupled to their 'light' (visible) counterparts.

So instead of the 'Hard and Easy' problems of modern 'consciousness studies' there may be 'Dark and Light' problems. The light problem is electric, entropic and transient. The dark problem is non electric and hence nonentropic and intransient. An Invisible Homo Sapiens coupled to the visible human body is a real possibility.

So then, what is death? It is simply a decoupling. The visible entropic body decays and dies. The invisible nonentropic body may endure with all its memories and capacities fully in tact. Unlike the entropic visible body, the invisible body cannnot be destroyed by extremes of anything- heat, cold, rdiation etc, but the feelings and subjectivities will continue to exist in tact.

Does that mean that ghosts of th dead roam about. No. From a scientific point of view when the visible body of say 150 lbs (energy beyond imagination) dies, the invisible body is of that much less energy. That means it will be a t a very negative energy state. It will require enormous energy of cosmic proportion to raise it back. It is very doubtful that any human agency will be able to provide that energy.

As regards so called 'spirit beings' floating around, if at all these reports are reliable and reproduced in differernt situations at different times and attested by different folks, they could be constituted of some kind of nonelectric matter at a positive energy state interacting more efficiently with the 'light' matter.

Real Hell? Real Heaven?

Noetic Center
All Rights Reserved

References
1 MIND MATTER, Noetic Journal (Vol 4, # 4, October 03, Nobelist Sir John Eccles Centennial Edition).
2. NeuroQuantology Journal, June, 2007 & September, 2007, Dark Chemistry or Psychic Spin Pixels?
http://noeticcenter.tripod.com http://noeticcenter.tripod.com/periodictable of personalities
______________________________
All Rights Reserved

Materialism: Ordinary & Extraordinary

The Invisible Homo Sapiens

A plant has life with no known mind of any kind, unless panpsychism is forced into it. Animals may have animal minds, but no human minds. From what we know empirically animals do not know that they are animals in the same way humans identify them. Human minds, no matter how depraved, are still human. But plants, animals and humans are made of the same non-intelligent electrons, protons and neutrons. Animal and human brains are systems of same or similar complex structures and functions. The IQ of Mother Nature is practically zero, until the smallest sentient cell steps in with an instant basic minimum of intricacy for survival and with information exceeding quantitatively that of the Library of Congress. Much work is done on consciousness. However, nobody can confirm a location or absence of a location of consciousness. It is all over as if permeating every cell, yet within the confines of a physical architecture of atomsThere is a level 0 of no sentience in dead matter. There is a Level 1 sentience in plants, level 2 sentience in animals and a level 3 sentience in humans. They are levels. It does not matter what value are assigned to these levels. What matters is there is a detectable, measurable, difference which is extremely consequential and therefore substantial. But it is the same insentient particles that they are all made of, unless some unknown invisible particles X, Y, Z are also present. If Partcle-X is present in level 1 then Particle-Y is additionally present in level 2, and Particle-Z is present in level 3. The successive addition of an extra particle X, Y, Z to the successive level explains the observed gradation of the sentience. Only in humans, electrons, protons and neutrons have all their axion-like counterparts yielding the invisible body. Plants and animals and their subclasses have only incomplete shells of axion-like particles. It does not matter that a some plant cells may have electron and axion in a one to one ratio and a sub-class of this plant cell may have 2 to 1. They are all incomplete shells of axion. Only in humans is there the possibility of a stable invisible body. Biophoton emission seems to support this gradation of stability. There is theoretical prediction that dark matter interaction with ordinary matter produce low frequency photons.
Bowler, Peter J. (1989). Evolution: The History of an Idea. Revised edition. Berkeley: University of California Press. Panchen, Alec L. (1994). "Richard Owen and the Concept of Homology." In Brian K. Hall, ed., Homology: The Hierarchical Basis of Comparative Biology. pp. 21-62. San Diego: Academic Press. Hall, Brian K. (1992). Evolutionary Developmental Biology. London: Chapman & Hall.
September 5, 1932

ORDINARY & EXTRAORDINARY MATERIALISM

The Invisible Homo Sapiens

Chemical bonds exist because of stable Duet or Octet electron configurations and electron spins. If there are three dark matter particles (of negligible mass and zero charge) corresponding to electron, proton and neutron in humans they may form a Dark Aufbau and a hierarchy of dark atoms, dark molecules, dark cells, dark brain etc and a Dark Body parallel to their visible counter parts. Perhaps positive and negative gravitons or an as yet unknown force also may be involved.

What is the point? Nothing much, but a mere Invisible Homo sapiens coupled parallel to the visible human body may exist. How about plants and animals and artificial intelligence (AI)? Plants may have only one type of Dark Matter that corresponding to electrons only. Animals may have an additional type corresponding to protons also. But these will not complete a Dark matter body in plants or animals. AI will have no Dark Matter particles coupled to any visible particles since there is no visible or dark DNA to govern these processes. The decreasing intensities of biophoton emission in the living cells of plants, animals and humans support this view. There is also theoretical basis to show that biophoton emission may be the result of interactions of Dark Matter particles with the visible particles.

The Punctuated Equilibrium was proposed within the framework of Marxism. Gould was a committed Marxist. He sincerely believed that Marxism is the Law of Nature. But Marxism is sudden change- Revolution. Darwinism is gradual change. The two are contrary. So he took the fossil records to defend Marxism eventually. Because the fossil records show sudden change, instant transitions with no missing links. So he came up with Punctuated Equilibrium. But Punctuation is Design and Equilibrium is Order. Darwinism is none of these. It is chance and chaos. The clearly observable taxonomic differences in spite of the close genomic similarities may be accounted for as follows: Type 1 Axions may be universally present across the taxa. Type II Axions may be present in animals and humans only, not in plants. Type III Axions may be present only in Humans.

Thus, only humans will have a complete hierarchy of Dark Bodies resulting in the INVISIBLE HOMO SAPIENS existing parallel to the visible human body. Since axions are non-electric, the axion body will be intransient being not governed by entropy, and will easily go through all material barriers. Animals will have less complete and plants the least complete form of Dark Bodies. Biophoton Emission seems to support this, plants emitting about 10 times more than animals. There are theoretical grounds to show that biophoton emission is a consequence of dark matter interaction with elementary particles. The binding capcity of axions to the visible atoms may exponentially increase with each addition of the axion type, making human dark cells 3^3 = 9 times more stable than plant dark cells.

So, Materialism to be valid must have two components: 1. Ordinary Materialism dealing with Light Matter and 2. Extra Ordinary Materialism dealing with Dark Matter or Dark Materialism.

References
1 MIND MATTER, Noetic Journal (Vol 4, # 4, October 03, Nobelist Sir John Eccles Centennial Edition).
2. NeuroQuantology Journal, June, 2007 & September, 2007, Dark Chemistry or Psychic Spin Pixels?
http://noeticcenter.tripod.com http://noeticcenter.tripod.com/periodictable of personalities

romansh

I'm sorry noetic .... I don't have a clue what you are talking about

But the good news: I do have some bottles of water, the water having incredible properties. AND they are very inexpensive.

all the best

__________________
There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened. ........... Douglas Adams

noeticcenter

Death of What? Dark or Light Body?

----------------------------------------------------------------
romansh;22623][quote=Skepticologist;22607] ....
With regard to your question, I've come to realize that death is inevitable for all humans. ........I think we may agree after all ... I think?? My point is....We may have reasons to grieve, to be angry or tocelebrate.... to feel something..... but that is it.

Noetic Response:

When it comes to death the real question to address is WHAT? Not why, how, when, where. Past 74 years of observations and study, since astronomer Fritz Zwicky (1933), has seen mounting evidence that Dark Matter exists to account for the huge missing mass (over 90%) of the universe. Now, not only cosmology but particle physics need nearly massless dark matter particles (axions). It is 'dark' because it is invisible; i.e non-electric.

So, it is not furtive to ask the question is there a Bio Dark Matter of negligible mass and zero charge? Such particles may be as diverse as ordinary particles. Electrons, protons and neutrons may have parallel 'dark' particles coupling with them via spin-spin interaction. Since Chemistry is all about spin and configuration of electrons, it is conceivable that 'dark atoms' and 'dark chemistries' also exist. If so, dark molecules, dark cells, dark organs and a 'dark soma' may all exist coupled to their 'light' (visible) counterparts.

So instead of the 'Hard and Easy' problems of modern 'consciousness studies' there may be 'Dark and Light' problems. The light problem is electric, entropic and transient. The dark problem is non electric and hence nonentropic and intransient. An Invisible Homo Sapiens coupled to the visible human body is a real possibility.

So then, what is death? It is simply a decoupling. The visible entropic body decays and dies. The invisible nonentropic body may endure with all its memories and capacities fully in tact. Unlike the entropic visible body, the invisible body cannnot be destroyed by extremes of anything- heat, cold, rdiation etc, but the feelings and subjectivities will continue to exist in tact.

Does that mean that ghosts of th dead roam about. No. From a scientific point of view when the visible body of say 150 lbs (energy beyond imagination) dies, the invisible body is of that much less energy. That means it will be a t a very negative energy state. It will require enormous energy of cosmic proportion to raise it back. It is very doubtful that any human agency will be able to provide that energy.

As regards so called 'spirit beings' floating around, if at all these reports are reliable and reproduced in differernt situations at different times and attested by different folks, they could be constituted of some kind of nonelectric matter at a positive energy state interacting more efficiently with the 'light' matter.

Real Hell? Real Heaven?

Noetic Center
All Rights Reserved

References
1 MIND MATTER, Noetic Journal (Vol 4, # 4, October 03, Nobelist Sir John Eccles Centennial Edition).
2. NeuroQuantology Journal, June, 2007 & September, 2007, Dark Chemistry or Psychic Spin Pixels?
http://noeticcenter.tripod.com http://noeticcenter.tripod.com/periodictable of personalities
______________________________
All Rights Reserved

Materialism: Ordinary & Extraordinary

The Invisible Homo Sapiens

A plant has life with no known mind of any kind, unless panpsychism is forced into it. Animals may have animal minds, but no human minds. From what we know empirically animals do not know that they are animals in the same way humans identify them. Human minds, no matter how depraved, are still human. But plants, animals and humans are made of the same non-intelligent electrons, protons and neutrons. Animal and human brains are systems of same or similar complex structures and functions. The IQ of Mother Nature is practically zero, until the smallest sentient cell steps in with an instant basic minimum of intricacy for survival and with information exceeding quantitatively that of the Library of Congress. Much work is done on consciousness. However, nobody can confirm a location or absence of a location of consciousness. It is all over as if permeating every cell, yet within the confines of a physical architecture of atomsThere is a level 0 of no sentience in dead matter. There is a Level 1 sentience in plants, level 2 sentience in animals and a level 3 sentience in humans. They are levels. It does not matter what value are assigned to these levels. What matters is there is a detectable, measurable, difference which is extremely consequential and therefore substantial. But it is the same insentient particles that they are all made of, unless some unknown invisible particles X, Y, Z are also present. If Partcle-X is present in level 1 then Particle-Y is additionally present in level 2, and Particle-Z is present in level 3. The successive addition of an extra particle X, Y, Z to the successive level explains the observed gradation of the sentience. Only in humans, electrons, protons and neutrons have all their axion-like counterparts yielding the invisible body. Plants and animals and their subclasses have only incomplete shells of axion-like particles. It does not matter that a some plant cells may have electron and axion in a one to one ratio and a sub-class of this plant cell may have 2 to 1. They are all incomplete shells of axion. Only in humans is there the possibility of a stable invisible body. Biophoton emission seems to support this gradation of stability. There is theoretical prediction that dark matter interaction with ordinary matter produce low frequency photons.
Bowler, Peter J. (1989). Evolution: The History of an Idea. Revised edition. Berkeley: University of California Press. Panchen, Alec L. (1994). "Richard Owen and the Concept of Homology." In Brian K. Hall, ed., Homology: The Hierarchical Basis of Comparative Biology. pp. 21-62. San Diego: Academic Press. Hall, Brian K. (1992). Evolutionary Developmental Biology. London: Chapman & Hall.
September 5, 1932

ORDINARY & EXTRAORDINARY MATERIALISM

The Invisible Homo Sapiens

Chemical bonds exist because of stable Duet or Octet electron configurations and electron spins. If there are three dark matter particles (of negligible mass and zero charge) corresponding to electron, proton and neutron in humans they may form a Dark Aufbau and a hierarchy of dark atoms, dark molecules, dark cells, dark brain etc and a Dark Body parallel to their visible counter parts. Perhaps positive and negative gravitons or an as yet unknown force also may be involved.

What is the point? Nothing much, but a mere Invisible Homo sapiens coupled parallel to the visible human body may exist. How about plants and animals and artificial intelligence (AI)? Plants may have only one type of Dark Matter that corresponding to electrons only. Animals may have an additional type corresponding to protons also. But these will not complete a Dark matter body in plants or animals. AI will have no Dark Matter particles coupled to any visible particles since there is no visible or dark DNA to govern these processes. The decreasing intensities of biophoton emission in the living cells of plants, animals and humans support this view. There is also theoretical basis to show that biophoton emission may be the result of interactions of Dark Matter particles with the visible particles.

The Punctuated Equilibrium was proposed within the framework of Marxism. Gould was a committed Marxist. He sincerely believed that Marxism is the Law of Nature. But Marxism is sudden change- Revolution. Darwinism is gradual change. The two are contrary. So he took the fossil records to defend Marxism eventually. Because the fossil records show sudden change, instant transitions with no missing links. So he came up with Punctuated Equilibrium. But Punctuation is Design and Equilibrium is Order. Darwinism is none of these. It is chance and chaos. The clearly observable taxonomic differences in spite of the close genomic similarities may be accounted for as follows: Type 1 Axions may be universally present across the taxa. Type II Axions may be present in animals and humans only, not in plants. Type III Axions may be present only in Humans.

Thus, only humans will have a complete hierarchy of Dark Bodies resulting in the INVISIBLE HOMO SAPIENS existing parallel to the visible human body. Since axions are non-electric, the axion body will be intransient being not governed by entropy, and will easily go through all material barriers. Animals will have less complete and plants the least complete form of Dark Bodies. Biophoton Emission seems to support this, plants emitting about 10 times more than animals. There are theoretical grounds to show that biophoton emission is a consequence of dark matter interaction with elementary particles. The binding capcity of axions to the visible atoms may exponentially increase with each addition of the axion type, making human dark cells 3^3 = 9 times more stable than plant dark cells.

So, Materialism to be valid must have two components: 1. Ordinary Materialism dealing with Light Matter and 2. Extra Ordinary Materialism dealing with Dark Matter or Dark Materialism.

References
1 MIND MATTER, Noetic Journal (Vol 4, # 4, October 03, Nobelist Sir John Eccles Centennial Edition).
2. NeuroQuantology Journal, June, 2007 & September, 2007, Dark Chemistry or Psychic Spin Pixels?
http://noeticcenter.tripod.com http://noeticcenter.tripod.com/periodictable of personalities

noeticcenter

[romansh;22695]I'm sorry noetic .... I don't have a clue what you are talking about

But the good news: I do have some bottles of water, the water having incredible properties. AND they are very inexpensive.

all the best[/]

Noetic Response:

Have you the Water of Life?

romansh

if that is what you crave .....

__________________
There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened. ........... Douglas Adams

noeticcenter

[quote=romansh;22698]if that is what you crave .....

No cravings. No ravings