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Old 07-15-2007, 01:13 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I can find meaning in my life without resorting to gods.

My meaning, all of it, dwells in what I am doing right this very moment. Not in the past. Not in the future. Right here and right now.

IMO, any extant gods are in the same predicament as the rest of us. They do not possess any inherent traits that qualify them to give meaning to anyone. They create meaning only in the present moment, just like we do.

(Oh, and "meaning" is not permanent either. Like our sense of self, it can persist from moment to moment but is ultimately an illusion much like the action on a movie film.)

As for laws relating to morality (as opposed to physical laws)... They are ad hoc constructions arrived at by mutual consent of a community's members, or imposed upon a community by the strongest members of the group. Laws do tend to make our lives more pleasant and secure, which is why we use them. Not because we "must", but because laws improve our quality of life.
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Old 07-15-2007, 06:40 AM   #12 (permalink)
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My meaning is the same meaning to which jesus spoke when he held up the flower and said "consider the lilies of the field."
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Old 07-15-2007, 04:49 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Silentmastermind, so have you found an answer to your questions yet? I mean, what would you say is the meaning of life?
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If you want to find the meaning of life...of your life...perhaps you simply need to start living. Saying that you want to find its meaning logically, then asking why to everything...would lead you nowhere...you will never find the answer.

Happiness might be a chemical reaction...yet not only does it have value, but it is as natural as spring water. Whatever the reason behind the purpose you give your life...still it will be your reason and your purpose. Hopefully they will be enough to give true meaning to your life.
People like you and other posters here...talk about everything and say nothing.
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Silentmastermind, so have you found an answer to your questions yet? I mean, what would you say is the meaning of life?
No one has yet. We just found the initial tools sisterX.
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:06 AM   #16 (permalink)
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What is truth? This will lead to Morality and the meaning of life.


These senses allow me to know Him, allow me to study Him through the Bible and I have many other witnesses to this fact.
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why do you think that studying the bible is the only way to know god and truth?
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Old 09-02-2007, 06:28 PM   #17 (permalink)
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As a complete agnostic who has more faith in science than I have in anything else, I think that chances are by far in favor of most of science (the big bang) being correct. Of course, as originally stated, the question is the meaning of life for a SECULARIST. I'd imagine he/you doesn't want to be told to follow a religion, again.

The way I look at it, which I can't think of any argument to, is that we all came here by amazingly small odds. The odds of the big bang, of the world being habitable, of you being born. Looking at it non-religiously, this is a tiny, tiny chance.

What am I getting to? Well, science tells me that by pure coincidence I happened to exist. No meaning of any sort, just coincidence. Perhaps the reason why no one has found a secular meaning of life is because there isn't one.

So does that mean that life is pointless? In a sense. But as I said before, we exist by chance, and I for one, am happy to exist. I can read. I can listen to music. I can be happy. Hence, why most people frown on suicide. So, for me the "meaning of life" is to be happy. But more importantly perhaps, is to help others do so and save lives so more people can exist and have this opportunity we all are lucky enough to have. The greatest happiness, for the greatest amount of people. I think that is the true meaning of life.

*Of course, as an agnostic, I understand that there can be, and there probably is a whole lot more than I don't know, and could change everything. But I like at least having some direction from what I do know
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Old 12-19-2007, 08:12 PM   #18 (permalink)
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simply the meaning you give it, why was it given to yourself? thats your own answer.

i stoped worrying about this a long time ago, i don't think there is a meaning, that it is what i decide. its great. and morals are relative.
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