The 7 Deadly Sins

TedJustice · 05-14-2007, 04:03 PM

This belief of mine was taken from Satanism, to be honest, but I fully agree with it. The seven deadly sins that Christianity believes in were just fabricated in the early days of the church because the church knew that humanity couldn't escape them and would need to seek reconciliation for these "sins" regularly.

All of the 7 sins are things that humans naturally desire, by instinct. We will always feel lust, sexual attraction for other purposes than simply being a factory and creating. We'll always commit gluttony, eating anything at all more than what's required to survive. We'll never escape sloth. There's no way people will work 24 hours a day without ever giving their talents a break. Hatred is perfectly natural, and a good thing to feel, as long as it is not acted upon. There's no way people can avoid feeling hatred. They can lie to themselves and forgive people, but deep down, they seek wrath. Envy will always be felt. Like greed, if we never want more than we have, nothing will ever get done. Nobody will be motivated to achieve anything. And pride. Did you know that you're committing the sin of pride every time you put on clothings that aren't just to protect you from the cold and cover your body? Any clothes that have some kind of label or design on them, if you wear that you feel pride. People walk into church committing pride every Sunday.

I basically believe that the Christian church, in its beginning stages, was a fabrication, and that at it some level, it was indeed a scam.

These sins don't hurt anybody. People only consider them taboo because the church tells them to. Natural human desires shouldn't be avoided, they should be embraced.

duck · 05-18-2007, 11:28 AM

Actually, the seven deadly sins and the seven heavenly virtues are found in civilizations that pre date Christianity. Most ancient Greed tragedies clearly focus on deadly sins. Writings of the ancient Phoenicians have been shown to discuss the deadly sins, as well as Babylonian texts, and many more.

This was another thing that was "borrowed" by Christianity as a matter of convenience owing to its simplicity.

Chapstiquelova · 05-24-2007, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TedJustice

This belief of mine was taken from Satanism, to be honest, but I fully agree with it. The seven deadly sins that Christianity believes in were just fabricated in the early days of the church because the church knew that humanity couldn't escape them and would need to seek reconciliation for these "sins" regularly.

All of the 7 sins are things that humans naturally desire, by instinct. We will always feel lust, sexual attraction for other purposes than simply being a factory and creating. We'll always commit gluttony, eating anything at all more than what's required to survive. We'll never escape sloth. There's no way people will work 24 hours a day without ever giving their talents a break. Hatred is perfectly natural, and a good thing to feel, as long as it is not acted upon. There's no way people can avoid feeling hatred. They can lie to themselves and forgive people, but deep down, they seek wrath. Envy will always be felt. Like greed, if we never want more than we have, nothing will ever get done. Nobody will be motivated to achieve anything. And pride. Did you know that you're committing the sin of pride every time you put on clothings that aren't just to protect you from the cold and cover your body? Any clothes that have some kind of label or design on them, if you wear that you feel pride. People walk into church committing pride every Sunday.

I basically believe that the Christian church, in its beginning stages, was a fabrication, and that at it some level, it was indeed a scam.

These sins don't hurt anybody. People only consider them taboo because the church tells them to. Natural human desires shouldn't be avoided, they should be embraced.

Eating to much :Obesity, heart attacks, etc.
Hate, You can drive yourself silly, to the point of insanity.Think about satan he hates God, and in the end he will BURN.

Pride, many people become soooo prideful, that they do everything themselves, this can connect with hate.

jaej · 05-25-2007, 02:02 PM

Chap no one is saying that the 7 deadly sins are good or beneficial-many of them are decidedly unhealthy. The point is they aren't divine.

duck · 05-25-2007, 02:11 PM

I tend to look on them more in the manner of character flaws. :dunno:

Chapstiquelova · 05-25-2007, 03:11 PM

lol, well does anyone know the reference ive read this before, but kinda forget why it was said. but if someone knows i'll read it again.

Romulus · 05-26-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TedJustice

The seven deadly sins that Christianity believes in were just fabricated in the early days of the church because the church knew that humanity couldn't escape them and would need to seek reconciliation for these "sins" regularly.

We will always feel lust, sexual attraction for other purposes than simply being a factory and creating. We'll always commit gluttony, eating anything at all more than what's required to survive. We'll never escape sloth. There's no way people will work 24 hours a day without ever giving their talents a break. Hatred is perfectly natural, and a good thing to feel, as long as it is not acted upon. And pride.

Your taking this from a legalistic point of view. Jesus' and the disciples teaching were not to keep people coming regularly to church to make up for wrongs. your right that these teachings are against things that people feel and do fairly often. However your deffinitions are twisting the situation. Lust is also applied in the Bible to things. Lusting after stuff or money not just people. indicating that theyr deffinition of lust is different then yours. Also the Bible doesnt speak out against eating to much unless its at an unhealthy point. Were gonna eat more then were supposed to occasionally. but the point is God was saying dont make yourself sick from eating more then you can handle. How else are you gonna word it other then gluttony. God isnt gonna right down in the Bible if your such and such an age eat this much food. So he just put dont be a glutton, dont eat more then you can handle.
You said sloth, the Bible says not to be lazy. Not do not relax. your taking it out of context.
Hatred. Hatred can be overcome and it can be turned back with a loving response. After Jesus left he sent the Holy Spirit. You guys dont even understand what a help the Holy Spirit is in overcoming sin.
pride, is not considering others. Humility is considering others. If someone is proud they wont consider exepting someones help even if its needed. They will also not allow someone to help them. However humility will consider others and include them if they can be helpfull.

Duck said that these sins and virtues predate Christianity. OF COURSE THEY DO! give people some credit. When something is harming society for who knows how many years people are gonna realize it. Each of those sins had a negetive effect on society and people obviously just gave a name to it and said, "yup this caused a problem dont do it" people arent complete idiots.

Chapstiquelova · 05-28-2007, 06:12 PM

well said!

moorehurst · 06-28-2007, 04:42 PM

I would like to put a word in for sloth.

While it would obviously be a trifle difficult if we all sat around being lazy I think there is a place for sloth in this world. Generally evil comes from industry. Environmental destruction comes from industrial over production, people doing stuff, getting up, going places, travelling in planes, builting nuclear power stations, listening to Natasha Beddingfield, that kind of thing.

If more people sat around contemplating the mysteries of the world we would all be a lot better off. Heck if more Germans had been slothful World War Two would have been a much less damaging enterprise.

jaej · 06-28-2007, 11:09 PM

You really don't like that lady, do you.