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Old 03-19-2008, 12:05 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I believe the definition of marriage should be kept as a union between one man and one woman only.
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:03 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I believe the definition of marriage should be kept as a union between one man and one woman only.
I was going to make a rude comment, but I decided not to post the obvious twice in a row.
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Old 03-19-2008, 07:04 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Ignoring religious tenets for the moment.... just on a purely logical or rational basis: why?
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Old 03-25-2008, 04:26 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Hello all. I am new here so I hope I'm posting in the right section (someone please point me in the right direction if I'm not). My question for those out there that are agnostic/atheist/nonreligious/etc is what do you do about marriage? I am currently dating a guy who was brought up in the Methodist chuch and recently started attending again after a couple years away trying to "figure things out" in terms of what he was "getting" from church. I have never attended a church regularly or been a religious person, but I suppose I've been pretty much (I don't know if this is the right word or not) brainwashed by our culture to believe that you get married you do it in a chuch. That's just what you do. When I mentioned this to my boyfriend he immediately had concerns. He thinks it wouldn't be right to "use" the church for a wedding with no intention of joining it. Logically I can see that it is irrational to not want to attend a church regularly but to have a wedding in a church. But at the same time, that's just what I've always expected. Has anyone encountered a similar problem or have any advice.

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All emotionally demanding/egotistical relationships are irrational from the outset, so it follows that marriage is one of the most irrational ceremonies one can come up with, for it celebrates irrationality itself. The only relationships that are rational are those that form as a result of a common pursuit that has nothing to do with satisfying one's ego.
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Old 03-25-2008, 04:40 PM   #45 (permalink)
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If people actually realized that, it might lower the divorce rate
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Just to back up the bus a little, and I don't go into the psychological or analytical properties of humans choosing mates and why they choose to formalize it with a contractual ceremony, my wife and I have been married for nearly a quarter century. I like the formalization and the sacramental part of this for the reason that vows are vows and need to be taken seriously. We were married in my wife's church, which I later became a member, to honor her, her family, and her upbringing in that church. Nothing more esoteric or intellectual than simply paying respect to the things that made her the wonderful and loving person that she is.

I have found that the fundamentalist surge that is taking over this church slowly and surely to be incredibly tiresome. There are several areas of doctrine that I have always caused me to part company, and this is the last straw. I no longer attend unless there is a pastoral presence that is more in tune to my needs and beliefs.

I am also sorry to inform the poster that said the piece of paper (marriage license) had no legal binding. Sorry. That is a legal contract in almost any jurisdiction that I can think of.
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Old 03-28-2008, 09:54 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I agree with An-Jel. I got married when I was a religious person, and now that both of us are agnostic, we stay together because we love each other. The peice of paper stating that we're married means nothing. Neither do the rings, but the fact that I have someone I love to wake up with in the morning means everything.
How sweet it is. That is pure respect for one another and pure love
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