Marriage - Page 4

Geshtinnanna · 10-07-2007, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximus

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Originally Posted by Geshtinnanna

To enjoy some peace and quiet? Or perhaps to be ready for a child? Needing to gain a house not an apartment? Needing to make sure you have medical insurance and aren't working without benefits? You need to be prepared as a parent and not pop them out at 19 like a piece of toast.

Uh huh.....uh huh.....yes....uh huh.....and you can do all those things without getting married, so why get married before having kids? Why not do all those things, get ready, and then get married, have your honeymoon and have kids, you don't need marriage to buy a house, you don't need marriage to get you and your partner established.

Why? What's it to you if people get married because of any reason they want? Is your pee pee gonna fall off or something kid? Who cares?

**The An-Jel** · 10-08-2007, 01:06 AM

I think evil takes many faces. What does your face take Maximus?

romansh · 10-08-2007, 11:18 AM

Hi Danarch and Maximus

First sorry for my hurried previous post..... but I think you got the gist.

So let me understand the central thread ..... the only possible purpose for marriage might be.... is to have children.

So if a couple can't have children ..... adopt.
So rearing children also counts ....OK

The purpose of a car mechanic is to maintain and fix cars, though we can do this without being a car mechanic...... this does not mean that the car mechanic does not have a purpose, even though some of us might think the handy man or woman can do it better than the professional.

Regarding the Ann Landers type of advice ..... thanks. You, guys (I presume) have little experience in this type of thing, infertility clinics, social services, the cost and the emotional wear and tear. We did adopt a little over sixteen years ago. Our son died unexpectedly this April. (No we are going to get a nice puppy or kitten).

So by your argument our marriage again has no pupose?

..... so our marriage is without purpose again?

Could you be confusing necessity and purpose.

all the best

Maximus · 10-08-2007, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by romansh

We did adopt a little over sixteen years ago. Our son died unexpectedly this April. (No we are going to get a nice puppy or kitten).

So by your argument our marriage again has no pupose?

..... so our marriage is without purpose again?

No, you had a child, I never said anything about a constant state of parenting.

romansh · 10-08-2007, 09:20 PM

Hi Maximus
Sorry I was ascribing Danarch's thoughts to you.

"i agree with maximus(wow) marriage is pointless. it started as a way to try and keep things civil in early society. there is NOTHING anyone can say that marriage is good for besides: ....."

You did not actually say marriage is pointless ... or without purpose.

Nevertheless, I would argue parents with their dying breath are in a constant state of parenting. My Dad's 83 and he is still parenting me (some may argue I still need it).

Would you agree that although marriage as such is not a necessity, but those involved may find a purpose?

all the best

danarch · 10-09-2007, 12:54 AM

how clear is this:

couples must give marriage a purpose for it to have one. there is no pre-defined purpose. unless you want the church to provide one for you.....

**The An-Jel** · 10-09-2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by danarch

unless you want the church to provide one for you.....

Yeah thats the only defined purpose!

romansh · 10-11-2007, 11:25 PM

works for me ... thanks

**debdodd** · 10-12-2007, 11:14 PM

Romansh,

although no one has said it, I am sure many think it ... we are very, very sorry about the loss of your child.

Having gone thru lots of fertility treatments, 4 invitro's I finally adopted also. Few can understand the angst associated with those treatments. I feel for you in light of all the hormonal and emotional ups and downs of treatment. Those of us that are parents know that is one of our biggest fears ...

As for you Maximus,

for your information, adoption isn't that easy dude! It's not like you go to a pet store and pick which little fishy you want out of the tank! You seem so arrogant and presumptuous for your age. Your views and opinions are all so black and white ... when you have more years of actual living and loving you will realize how little you really do know. You are so full of righteous indignation and determination that you have all the answers ... that you could straighten out everyone in the world, if they'd only listen to you and follow your fascist and narrow minded views ... phooey on you ... your book knowledge may be significant but your life experience is insignificant.

romansh · 10-13-2007, 12:53 AM

Thanks Deb

I can only understand your experience vicariously through my wife's. It is different for a man, at least it was for me. So I doubt I can truly understand.
I hope you have happiness and dare I say it a (the) purpose that you want.

Maximus

As much as I agree with Deb's sentiment, I feel Deb was hard on you. I don't particularly agree with your certainty, though I am certain in my own way. If I may offer you some advice maintain your certainty if you wish, but temper it with questioning. Through questions we find answers, as answers will only be questioned.

All the best to you both