Marriage - Page 2

**The An-Jel** · 03-06-2007, 03:32 PM

For the non-religious (even for the religious that aren't static with the decrees of their church) here what would be the idealistic spiritual place to get married.

I see a Hot Summer Night on a Beach... loose simply dressing for both people. Sounds simple and kind... some justice of the peace doing the deed for tax purposes but he has to wear a tunic so no tricks up his sleeve.

Curious · 03-07-2007, 09:54 PM

We got married nude in a hot spring pool just exactly as we met. It has been a wonderful ten years already.

Marriage is a contract -- an agreement between two people. It has some legal basis and some historic connection to religion; however, it need not be formalized by either. For us it was convenient to have a license and a "mail-order minister".

Ceremony and celebration can be important to some people. Approval and recognition can also. Perhaps it would be wise to forgo the external manifestations and concentrate on internal and interpersonal conditions and to emphasize communication and cooperation.

**The An-Jel** · 03-07-2007, 11:46 PM

Yep gots to agree with you Curious about the communication and cooperation. The Physical stuff can be kinda cool to though hehehe. I always thought the mental stuff was always a given.

Hot Spring Pool... pretty cool!

twsmith · 03-08-2007, 03:18 AM

My wife is religious and I'm not but we got married in a United Church. The ceremony was really nice and the minister didn't try to convert me or anything. I have nothing but fond memories about the whole day and consider the church a special place due to the fact that I got married there.

The only real issue I have is that my wife occasionally tries to get me to go to church with her. Holidays are especially stressful, since her Mom has a tradition of going to church on Christmas Eve.

I think it's important that you understand that your husband may expect you to go to church with him and that if you do want to stay together, you may have to compromise. While I have gone to church with my wife, I make sure that she knows I am going for her, not for religious reasons.

If you decide to have children it opens up a whole new set of problems. Are they going to be baptized, go to Sunday school, etc...? I think it's important to discuss these issues prior to marriage and try to work out a compromise prior to making that commitment.

Mortalsfool · 10-02-2007, 03:39 PM

It may not be a popular idea, but divorce appears to have risen above the fifty percent level in the USA, making it the new 'normal'. Normal must be considered as what more then fifty percent of the people do. Unless the majority no longer constitutes 'the norm', marriage is becoming an abnormal practice, howbeit necessary as the An-Jel pointed out for property rights. 'Till death do us part' is an oath that seems to be easily dismissed.

Maximus · 10-02-2007, 05:40 PM

I believe marriage should have a point to it, and in my opinion the best point to get married is to have children a binding contract for two people to raise children, be a family instead of a couple.

I hate it when people get married frivolously or that wait 10 years until they have kids.

There's absolutely no point without kids in my opinion.

duck · 10-02-2007, 06:25 PM

So you see no point in formalizing a relationship with a life partner/soulmate other than the the production of children?

Maximus · 10-03-2007, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by duck

So you see no point in formalizing a relationship with a life partner/soulmate other than the the production of children?

A piece of paper that says you're married is worthless, especially with a prenup because the paper itself has absolutely no value.

I know plenty of helathy couples who have been together for decades without getting married.

When you get married and have children THAT'S got value, cause a divorce is going to result in someone paying through their nose in some cases.

Then again I don't believe in divorce, only an anulment, OR in extreme cases like domestic violence.

danarch · 10-03-2007, 04:19 AM

[quote=Maximus;18467]

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Originally Posted by duck

So you see no point in formalizing a relationship with a life partner/soulmate other than the the production of children?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximus

piece of paper that says you're married is worthless, especially with a prenup because the paper itself has absolutely no value.

I know plenty of helathy couples who have been together for decades without getting married.

i agree with maximus(wow

) marriage is pointless. it started as a way to try and keep things civil in early society. there is NOTHING anyone can say that marriage is good for besides:

getting assets from a divorce.
giving the illusion of security for the couple and/or kids
legal formalities
saving money on tax returns

myth: marriage helps keep couples together as higher form of commitment.

fact: 50% of all marriges end in divorce. you have better odds not getting married.
http://www.biblenews1.com/marriage/m...iage%20Divorce

romansh · 10-03-2007, 08:04 PM

Danarch
The value of the marriage ceremony (process) could be just in the eye of the beholder? If it is without value to you, so be it.

By common law, people become married by spending time with each other, is that pointless? ..... I know I'm twisting your words a litlle.

If 50% of marriages end up in divorce, then that implies most people who do get married don't get divorced. The statsitics are skewed by the multiple offenders who like to repeat their mistakes regularly. This assumes they don't scoop up the marriage virgins before theycan meet?

I've been married for over thirty years through thick and thin. Would we have been as happy without a ceremony: possibly? Nevertheless we would have been married.

all the best