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06-11-2008, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Ice_Monkey If you don't know if it was right or wrong, why not? How could you not? | Let me clarify:
First, please note my signature. It's a disclaimer about any statements I make. Take special note of "I don't mean to state anything as a truth."
The reason it's there is because I have no definite stance, about anything. | Seems like rather mindless and lazy stance. Being uncommitted about everything is still a stance. | And maybe it is a stance. Maybe it's not.
In any case, I assume I don't expect you to think anything good of it.... | What, you're weasley non-anwer?
Maybe I do, maybe I don't.
(you'd be a lot of fun on a witness stand)
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06-12-2008, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Lanya Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice_Monkey Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanya Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice_Monkey If you don't know if it was right or wrong, why not? How could you not? | Let me clarify:
First, please note my signature. It's a disclaimer about any statements I make. Take special note of "I don't mean to state anything as a truth."
The reason it's there is because I have no definite stance, about anything. | Seems like rather mindless and lazy stance. Being uncommitted about everything is still a stance. | And maybe it is a stance. Maybe it's not.
In any case, I assume I don't expect you to think anything good of it.... | What, you're weasley non-anwer?
Maybe I do, maybe I don't.
(you'd be a lot of fun on a witness stand) | Yes, my weaselly non-answer.
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06-13-2008, 09:32 PM
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| the suspense is killing me!
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Originally Posted by Ice_Monkey If you don't know if it was right or wrong, why not? How could you not? | I know the answer for myself.
But if I think about carefully just for a minute.
eg what influences have there been that make me come to my conclusion?
Are there other points of view that need to be considered?
How has the world changed because of this event?
Then the answers are less clear ... My programming tells me to disapprove/condemn.
I'm just taking a closer look at my programming.
I suspect Lanya is doing exactly the same, in one way or another. | I'll look forward to seeing what you two come up with. | So... whatcha got? (doooo go on)
(think about it carefully, now)
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06-19-2008, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by timmyg http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341574,00.html
take a peek at this story
this girl died from a treatable illness because instead of being brought to a doctor her parents prayed for her health
my question is, should the parents be held responsible?
i say yes, they should face a penalty of jail time.
as a parent you are responsible for the well being of your children
their negligence in not helping this child with the easily available medical attention she needed is what made her not only die but apparently suffer for 30 days
what do you all think? | maybe they should have gone for the tried and tested approach SCIENCE!!! which actually works!!
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06-19-2008, 08:05 AM
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| some fundamentalists believe....
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Originally Posted by timmyg http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341574,00.html
take a peek at this story
this girl died from a treatable illness because instead of being brought to a doctor her parents prayed for her health
my question is, should the parents be held responsible?
i say yes, they should face a penalty of jail time.
as a parent you are responsible for the well being of your children
their negligence in not helping this child with the easily available medical attention she needed is what made her not only die but apparently suffer for 30 days
what do you all think? | maybe they should have gone for the tried and tested approach SCIENCE!!! which actually works!! | .. that science is evil, since it can be used to show that many of their religious beliefs are wrong.
In other words, engaging in reality isn't one of their strong points.
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07-17-2008, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by timmyg http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341574,00.html
take a peek at this story
this girl died from a treatable illness because instead of being brought to a doctor her parents prayed for her health
my question is, should the parents be held responsible?
i say yes, they should face a penalty of jail time.
as a parent you are responsible for the well being of your children
their negligence in not helping this child with the easily available medical attention she needed is what made her not only die but apparently suffer for 30 days
what do you all think? | I think they should have the **** kicked out of them! People like that do not deserve children and obviously are not mentally capable of making rational decisions. Religion equals insanity. This is bible at it's finest but maybe they failed by not having the 'demons' cast out of the child. That is if you are really going to follow the bible. Several years ago that happened where I live. The wife had breast cancer and they belonged to some absurd church that believed in healing by faith and prayer. She refused treatment until a week before she died. All of these people will allow pain medicine at the end when there is no hope at all. The neighbors reported screams that could be heard at the end of the street while she was dying. The doctor had pumped her as full of morphine as possible but it did not help at that point. He said her breast burst open and blood and rotted tissue gushed out. Her children were there to witness the whole sorry episode. Later is was revealed they had two children years earlier who died due to severe illness and refusal of medical treatment. Unbelievable! "If you have any sick among you let them call for the elders and anoint with oil and pray the prayer of faith" only a fool would follow this advise. BTW most christians go to doctors just like us sinners and they will fight death tooth and nail. I wonder why that is when heaven is waiting on the other side....muhahaha.. | |
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08-19-2008, 04:13 AM
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this isnt the majority of Christians....... dont think because someone who was clearly out of there mind, makes all Christians to be stupid ^_^ | |
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08-19-2008, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by imachristian this isnt the majority of Christians....... dont think because someone who was clearly out of there mind, makes all Christians to be stupid ^_^ | no but what a dangerous minority they are..... | |
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08-19-2008, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by imachristian this isnt the majority of Christians....... dont think because someone who was clearly out of there mind, makes all Christians to be stupid ^_^ | I don't judge a religion by their fringe nutjobs. I judge it by the reaction of the moderates to the nutjobs.
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08-19-2008, 09:34 AM
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And what exactly do you think the vast majority think about the actions of the very few, Ice? | |
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