JoeCamaro

Why shouldthey be pusnished? Well, there is a chance they didnt take her to the hosplital because they thought faith and god were going to save her, but there is also a chance they wanted to get rid of her. What if they are hidding behind faith, using it as an excuse to not take the girl to the hospital, but the real intention was to let her die? I mean thare are all kinds of crazy people you know, they could have had many reasons, aconomy, mental sickness, religious reasons, you know there are people that can punish and even kill their own children for the most stupid things.

If they are not judged and punished, then anybody can do something similar and get away with it.

Joe

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romansh

Thanks Wiliam
I'm sorry.
I find the whole thing sad .... especially our response to this event.

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xxkayxx

Has anybody heard of the story of that one woman who drowned like 5 sons, because "god told her to"? This happened awhile ago i think, and she said that god had told her that her sons were going to grow up into thieves, and such, and to save them she would have to kill them. Needless to say, she was charged with murder =(

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duck

I never denied the sadness surrounding this case. Please forgive me if the impression was given. You must understand that I care very deeply for the welfare of children and that a sense of outrage in cases such as this, as it is very sadly not unique, takes me.

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romansh

Hi duck.. nice to see you again.
I don't believe there is anyone who has posted does not find it sad.
The thing that is bothering me is the moral high ground we as agnostics are taking on this.

Do you think punishing these people will deter others? A child dying, if that is not enough to deter me from stupidity ... I can't see anything else working either. Right and wrong are societal constructs and don't exist outside of that (type of) framework. So if society wishes to punish, fine. Just be careful what we wish for.

keep well ... you "should" post more often

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romansh

If we truly want to punish the parents.
Give them enlightenment ... to understand truly the magnitude of their stupidity.
Now that I think would be sufficiently cruel to satisfy our needs.

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duck

Each case is unique. Certain behaviors are criminal, and we should let this play out. Some cases are just stupidity. Some are criminal and the perpetrators should face consequences lest we forget that we are a society of law, and necessarily so.

I agree with you, after some reflection, on the high ground issue. That should be excused to some extent since because I believe it is the outrage speaking.

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romansh

I understand the outrage, I feel it too.
I agree with the law being upheld but upholding the law is easy compared to ensuring justice. The child death was due to stupidity, completely. Locally a six year old fell into the Columbia. I don't know the details of what happened. But in a sense it was completely avoidable. So how do we compare one avoidable death with another. Who's going to draw that line in the sand to say what is OK and what is not?

I'm sorry.. a tough thread for all of us. And I suppose, I should watch my own personal high ground.

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duck

Like I said. Each case is different. This is why we elect prosecutors and judges to make these calls. Not easy. But, necessary.

I grew up being taught to have a great deal of respect for the Columbia River.

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kellid

I believe in cases like this the only explanation is there is evil out there. We always need an explantion for everything and sometimes the only answer is evil or in cases of a more happier ending divine intervention. We would like to think she was completely out of her mind which I am sure was the end result but again somethings defy logic and reason good or bad.