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Old 03-27-2008, 05:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Seems that every year there is a story like this. It saddens me so very much when a life is cut needlessly short.

The parents and the "bible study" group should and will be held accountable. Our temporal laws have to be upheld and the wellness and well being of children must be protected.
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Old 03-27-2008, 05:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Amen to that! (amen, haha)
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Old 03-27-2008, 07:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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"As racial survival is the only universal morality"
i disagree, self survival is the prime function of people, well accutally its what ever produces the right chemical reaction,...
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Old 03-27-2008, 09:34 PM   #14 (permalink)
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The parents need to be held accountable here. A completely avoidable death, what a damn shame.
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Old 03-28-2008, 06:55 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Hell yeah. They should be put in prison! Stupid people. It is ok to hae faith in a god or something, but an illness has to be treated by professionals.
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Old 03-28-2008, 07:41 PM   #16 (permalink)
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They should be put on trial for torture and murder. Furthermore, the church that promoted this behavior should be treated as a criminal organization running cons for money that result in murder and torture.
Og how would you reconcile this with
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Originally Posted by Joseph Campbell .... but one of the greatest challenges in life is to say "yea" to that person or that act or that condition which in your mind is most abominable. Power of Myth
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Old 03-28-2008, 09:50 PM   #17 (permalink)
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oh guys i remembered my cousin, who had an asthma attack, and instead of being taken by his wife to the hospital both of them prayed hallelujah! Jesus! there goes his life, we were being called upon by his wife to take him to the hospital but my cousin was already greyish...fools.
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OK I'm going to be a dissenting voice.

Speaking as a recently bereaved parent ... my heart goes out to the parents and family.
I agree with WilliamBlue this was death by stupidity.
Who here has not been stupid at some moment in time?

Parents go out to the bar leaving the kids to play with matches
Parents driving inattentively
I'm sure everyone has there own local examples of stupidity.

Do you think punishing these parents will actually be a deterrent?
I for one doubt it.
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OK I'm going to be a dissenting voice.

Speaking as a recently bereaved parent ... my heart goes out to the parents and family.
I agree with WilliamBlue this was death by stupidity.
Who here has not been stupid at some moment in time?

Parents go out to the bar leaving the kids to play with matches
Parents driving inattentively
I'm sure everyone has there own local examples of stupidity.

Do you think punishing these parents will actually be a deterrent?
I for one doubt it.

Yh, i kind of feel bad for them.They're in alot of grief right now. The worst part is knowing when parents make stupid choices that harm their children, they usually learn from that mistake, but i can bet you those parents probably don't , and won't ever, realize what that stupid somethig is. They probably think that they need to pray more....btw, assuming they were asked why they didn't just take their child to the hospital, how did they respond?
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OK I'm going to be a dissenting voice.

Speaking as a recently bereaved parent ... my heart goes out to the parents and family.
I agree with WilliamBlue this was death by stupidity.
Who here has not been stupid at some moment in time?

Parents go out to the bar leaving the kids to play with matches
Parents driving inattentively
I'm sure everyone has there own local examples of stupidity.

Do you think punishing these parents will actually be a deterrent?
I for one doubt it.
My issue is that they still didn't get it after they killed her, i.e 'We didn't have enough faith to heal her!', if you do nothing, others are going to believe that their faith is stronger and they will be able to heal said sickness. They must punish them (harshly, I think)so those others will understand that there are consequences for this type of experiment.

Even a dog will learn if you punish it when it does unwanted behavior, although I have my doubts about these people, but even if they don't learn you still have to punish them. I would also make them go to a treatment center for people that are sucked into cults, for the obvious reasons.
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