Gay Marriage - Page 22

Lanya · 07-06-2008, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by danarch

i'm in full opposition to any type of "legal" marriage. why not just vow to be faithful to each other and be fine with that? use rings to symbolize (to others mostly) that vow, sure why not?....why go any further?? everything a marriage is to be is set before the engagement.

I assume keeping the ceremony makes it easier to determine when a couple should have federal benefits (US, for example).

Ice_Monkey · 07-07-2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lanya

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Originally Posted by danarch

i'm in full opposition to any type of "legal" marriage. why not just vow to be faithful to each other and be fine with that? use rings to symbolize (to others mostly) that vow, sure why not?....why go any further?? everything a marriage is to be is set before the engagement.

I assume keeping the ceremony makes it easier to determine when a couple should have federal benefits (US, for example).

plus, it's a ceremony. Some people like those.

danarch · 07-10-2008, 01:38 AM

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I assume keeping the ceremony makes it easier to determine when a couple should have federal benefits

ahh yes, the upside. monetary gains.

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it's a ceremony. Some people like those.

I can understand that. But it seems to me that its out lived its purpose. Now its viewed as glue to keep things together,a crutch to lean on when things get rough.

Ice_Monkey · 07-10-2008, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by danarch

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I assume keeping the ceremony makes it easier to determine when a couple should have federal benefits

ahh yes, the upside. monetary gains.

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it's a ceremony. Some people like those.

I can understand that. But it seems to me that its out lived its purpose. Now its viewed as glue to keep things together,a crutch to lean on when things get rough.

I don't see that at all. It may be something my wife and I lean on during tough times, but what's wrong with that? It was a public declaration of our commitment to each other, and we both did it willingly. My sister didn't. She went down to the JP and got married with no fanfare. The choice is yours, but there are several legal issues that marriage adresses, which are still useful today.

danarch · 07-11-2008, 02:04 AM

cant argue too much with that. I wont be getting married for a tax break tho.

HEPA3YMEH · 08-15-2008, 04:35 PM

Check this out, 12 reasons gay marriage will ruin society.
http://grove.ufl.edu/~ggsa/gaymarriage.html

This is a joke btw

mjackso6 · 09-03-2008, 01:31 PM

I got married over in Germany. There, a civil ceremony (at the local raethaus[city hall]) is required; if you don't have that, you're not married. You're free to have any kind of church ceremony you want after that. So far as gay marriage goes, I found an article that says that Germany has allowed gay marriage since 2001 (which I didn't know) with the following prohibitions:

Attempts to give same-sex partners the same tax and welfare benefits as those enjoyed by straight couples were defeated in the upper house of the German parliament where Chancellor Schroeder's coalition is in a minority.

And unlike gay couples in the neighbouring Netherlands, German couples will not have the right to adopt.

Well, Germany is pretty liberal overall, but they're also waaaay too religious for me...

Anyhow, personally I don't have any problems with gay marriage/partnership/whatever, but I'd be lying if I said that I didn't suffer from at least that little touch of homophobia. The whole idea doesn't bother me intellectually, but as someone else said earlier, the sight of two guys kissing is just vaguely disturbing somehow... And yes, I freely admit to being a chauvinist of some kind, because I'm not nearly as disturbed if we're talking about two women.

BrotherBrian · 09-03-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mjackso6

I got married over in Germany. There, a civil ceremony (at the local raethaus[city hall]) is required; if you don't have that, you're not married. You're free to have any kind of church ceremony you want after that. So far as gay marriage goes, I found an article that says that Germany has allowed gay marriage since 2001 (which I didn't know) with the following prohibitions:

Attempts to give same-sex partners the same tax and welfare benefits as those enjoyed by straight couples were defeated in the upper house of the German parliament where Chancellor Schroeder's coalition is in a minority.

And unlike gay couples in the neighbouring Netherlands, German couples will not have the right to adopt.

Well, Germany is pretty liberal overall, but they're also waaaay too religious for me...

Anyhow, personally I don't have any problems with gay marriage/partnership/whatever, but I'd be lying if I said that I didn't suffer from at least that little touch of homophobia. The whole idea doesn't bother me intellectually, but as someone else said earlier, the sight of two guys kissing is just vaguely disturbing somehow... And yes, I freely admit to being a chauvinist of some kind, because I'm not nearly as disturbed if we're talking about two women.

How about if one's Rosey O'Donnell and the other one was say, Linda Tripp?

duck · 09-03-2008, 04:09 PM

Whatever turns your crank, boys.

**debdodd** · 09-03-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mjackso6

the sight of two guys kissing is just vaguely disturbing somehow... And yes, I freely admit to being a chauvinist of some kind, because I'm not nearly as disturbed if we're talking about two women.

yer a pig!

(jk)