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12-17-2007, 11:04 PM
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| I read something today, on either CNN or MSNBC (can't remember which), about some state's refusal of federal funds for abstinence-only education programs because they simply don't work.
Something that continually amazes me about the evangelical right is their propensity for basing policies and programs on what they wish the world were like as opposed to what it's really like.
With regard to the sex education issue, you may wish all day long that young people would act like the adults they haven't yet become and take under advisement the potential negative ramifications of having sex and simply not do it. But the reality is that they're gonna do it. Always have, always will. It's just to much fun not to do it once you've reached an age where you can. So you can wish they wouldn't do it and continue to preach to them about all the reasons not to, or you can accept reality and provide them with the means, e.g. condoms, to ameliorate the negative consequences when they inevitably do it.
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12-18-2007, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Skepticologist I read something today, on either CNN or MSNBC (can't remember which), about some state's refusal of federal funds for abstinence-only education programs because they simply don't work.
Something that continually amazes me about the evangelical right is their propensity for basing policies and programs on what they wish the world were like as opposed to what it's really like.
With regard to the sex education issue, you may wish all day long that young people would act like the adults they haven't yet become and take under advisement the potential negative ramifications of having sex and simply not do it. But the reality is that they're gonna do it. Always have, always will. It's just to much fun not to do it once you've reached an age where you can. So you can wish they wouldn't do it and continue to preach to them about all the reasons not to, or you can accept reality and provide them with the means, e.g. condoms, to ameliorate the negative consequences when they inevitably do it. | Well of course they're going to do it, hell i do it. It' just good to know what your doing.
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12-18-2007, 10:19 PM
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| Our children belong to God
We are just entrusted with raising them and are accountable to God for the outcome
Instruct them in the ways of righteousness and teach them that fornication is a sin
Only sex within the confines of a marriage is acceptable in the eyes of the Lord therefore open dialogue on safe practices is futile
If your child follows God’s word and wisely chooses a make with the same upbringing there will be no chance of STD’s, early pregnancy or the need for infant murder |
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12-19-2007, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MAYBE Our children belong to God
We are just entrusted with raising them and are accountable to God for the outcome
Instruct them in the ways of righteousness and teach them that fornication is a sin
Only sex within the confines of a marriage is acceptable in the eyes of the Lord therefore open dialogue on safe practices is futile
If your child follows God’s word and wisely chooses a make with the same upbringing there will be no chance of STD’s, early pregnancy or the need for infant murder | This is an agnostic forum. Get with the program.
We can't move the country to socialism and communism with ideas like yours screwing up the process. We need to remove such anachronistic thinking and embrace hopelessness and mediocrity. Only then can the masses be moulded into a pliable subservience. |
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12-19-2007, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MAYBE Our children belong to God
We are just entrusted with raising them and are accountable to God for the outcome
Instruct them in the ways of righteousness and teach them that fornication is a sin
Only sex within the confines of a marriage is acceptable in the eyes of the Lord therefore open dialogue on safe practices is futile
If your child follows God’s word and wisely chooses a make with the same upbringing there will be no chance of STD’s, early pregnancy or the need for infant murder | So your pretty much going to use God as your condom? Smooth, real smooth.
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12-19-2007, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LovingAnabelle Quote:
Originally Posted by MAYBE Our children belong to God
We are just entrusted with raising them and are accountable to God for the outcome
Instruct them in the ways of righteousness and teach them that fornication is a sin
Only sex within the confines of a marriage is acceptable in the eyes of the Lord therefore open dialogue on safe practices is futile
If your child follows God’s word and wisely chooses a make with the same upbringing there will be no chance of STD’s, early pregnancy or the need for infant murder | So your pretty much going to use God as your condom? Smooth, real smooth. | Or ribbed for her pleasure.
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12-27-2007, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by LovingAnabelle Most of society believes that sex education will in fact increase the rate of promiscuity in today's youth. Opposers believe that it will actually help today's youth by having them realize the "dangers" of sex. What do you think? | In a day and age where having sex can literally kill a person, I think it's patently irresponsible NOT to provide accurate sex education. |
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12-28-2007, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Skepticologist
Something that continually amazes me about the evangelical right is their propensity for basing policies and programs on what they wish the world were like as opposed to what it's really like. |
You just recieved Duck's last Hammer on the Nail award for 2007.
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12-30-2007, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by duck Quote:
Originally Posted by Skepticologist
Something that continually amazes me about the evangelical right is their propensity for basing policies and programs on what they wish the world were like as opposed to what it's really like. |
You just recieved Duck's last Hammer on the Nail award for 2007. | Is that a good thing? If so, is it a cash reward? If so, how much? Would you prefer my mailing address or my Swiss bank account?
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12-30-2007, 01:23 AM
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| It's a good thing.
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