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05-31-2008, 01:30 PM
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|  guess who usually tips off the cops?
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Originally Posted by debdodd  you can't possibly believe that the dealers want it legalized .... they would loose their huge profits ... you've got those that don't want it legalized for religious/criminal reason and those that make a profit by it ..... the proponents of legalization are usually the users who are tired of paying the high prices of the dealers and wish to grow their own ...
the war of words on legalization is on the same par as what the moonshiners go through .... they haven't solved that problem either .... the problem begins once people grow their own and then decide to make a profit off it.
A person that grows one plant for personal consumption usually doesn't have anything to worry about ... | My bro-in-law is a cop in Toronto. He tells me that it's usually dealers who rat on dealers. This results in a "big bust", which accomplishes absolutely nothing, other than artifically drive the price of weed up a bit for a few weeks.
Massive waste of resources, eh? Criminal, almost.
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05-31-2008, 01:48 PM
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capitalism at it's best 
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05-31-2008, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GX Not at all. | Me too.
We have a bunch of arbitary societal laws, rules and morals.
We can choose to abide or disobey.
We can suck it up and take the consequences.
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05-31-2008, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by debdodd you can't possibly believe that the dealers want it legalized .... they would loose their huge profits ... you've got those that don't want it legalized for religious/criminal reason and those that make a profit by it ..... the proponents of legalization are usually the users who are tired of paying the high prices of the dealers and wish to grow their own ...
the war of words on legalization is on the same par as what the moonshiners go through .... they haven't solved that problem either .... the problem begins once people grow their own and then decide to make a profit off it.
A person that grows one plant for personal consumption usually doesn't have anything to worry about ... | My bro-in-law is a cop in Toronto. He tells me that it's usually dealers who rat on dealers. This results in a "big bust", which accomplishes absolutely nothing, other than artifically drive the price of weed up a bit for a few weeks.
Massive waste of resources, eh? Criminal, almost. |
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you are so right
We could offset the cost of police by having them deal. | |
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05-31-2008, 04:14 PM
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have the police deal? some of them do that already ... we just had a cop busted of that here .... there are more honest police that crooked ... there is always some one out there to make a buck .... be it the protector or the protected ... the ticks of life ... feeding off one another ... 
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05-31-2008, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by debdodd capitalism at it's best | 
Nice one, Deb.
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05-31-2008, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ice_Monkey and I've yet to debate it with anyone capable of formulating a coherent argument against it. | Me too. I formulated a challenge on page 6 of this thread for anyone to debate the social costs of illegality vs the social costs of legality and no one took me up on the challenge and we have quite a few intellectual heavyweights who post here who were ambivalent about legalizing it. I dont mean to brag, but I can shred to pieces any argument against legalization and Im sure you can as well. | Is it more than just a coincidence that those against legalizing it are also cowards? | Sorry Ice Monkey, I overlooked this.
Those against legalizing it are many kinds. From the religious zealots, to the corporate profiteers, to the government spooks that need unaccounted for money to do their thing to the naive citizenry concerned about "the children" when in reality it is easier for children to get weed when it is illegal than if it were legal. I dont think you can neatly categorize those who are against legalization. | |
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05-31-2008, 08:22 PM
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hell on this forum you'd probably find more pro-choice than those that anti-weed!
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05-31-2008, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by debdodd hell on this forum you'd probably find more pro-choice than those that anti-weed! | Speaking of hell, and your nickname (beelzebub-ette), I have yet to see you use this emoticon:  or this one:  Get in the spirit of things beelzebub-ette!  | |
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05-31-2008, 11:08 PM
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actually I have ... used them today in fact ... what? you don't follow my every word? ohhhhhh you are so going to get spanked!
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