The Origin of Morality - Page 4

danarch · 09-29-2007, 02:41 AM

maximus, after reading the definition of facism, im probably the exact opposite. yes killing an offender publicly will put fear into people with the same compultion to do the same , but logic tells me this will not solve the problem but make it worse. people will double and tripple the efforts to commit the crime undetected, and ,at the same time, draw compassion from the masses for what ever the reason they invent as an excuse for their actions.
politics is much like religion as no ones got working perfectly, there will always be individuals who only act in their best intrest, and not in people who they opress.

moraly, i will not live to see my views realized.
a world where;
people born with handicaps can be healed by modern medicine
food can be replicated/cloned to provide cheaply for all mankind
criminals can actually be rehabilitated for real, instead of stored or killed
wars are not fought for the intrests of tyrants(wealthy,religion,facist ect)
everyone can choose their life, and not be born into it

i can go on forever

there will also always be those who want these things for our species. we will not go away. your politics and religion will not stop us but only get in our way. the human race will eventually provide all the facts about the universe. the human race will gain the knowledge of a system of goverment that benfits all and eradicates your tyranus oppression.
your religions will crumble
your politics will fail
we will win

danarch · 09-29-2007, 04:50 AM

good reading from The Academy of Evolutionary Metaphysics

http://www.evolutionary-metaphysics....led_times.html

**Skepticologist** · 09-29-2007, 07:39 PM

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But in order to merit the description "human being", you have to at least care a little about your fellow "human beings". Otherwise, "What's It All About, Alfie?". If your sole purpose in life is to seek self-gratification at the expense of anyone who gets in your way, you are an abysmally shallow individual.

That's your opinion not fact.

P.S. I believe most people are selfish.

No, it's not fact. And maybe most people are selfish. But I happen to believe that the meaning of life is all about happiness, nothing more and nothing less. And I've discovered that true, deep, lasting happiness simply does not result from continuing self-gratification.

Self-gratification is subject to the law of diminishing return. To get the same benefit, it continually costs you more and more. There is a definite and finite limit as to how much happiness it can bring about.

Live only within yourself, and you are limited to a very narrow range of consciousness. Live outsdie yourself, and your horizons are limitless.

Maximus · 09-30-2007, 05:20 PM

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And maybe most people are selfish. But I happen to believe that the meaning of life is all about happiness, nothing more and nothing less.

....Okay..........

**Skepticologist** · 09-30-2007, 08:08 PM

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And maybe most people are selfish. But I happen to believe that the meaning of life is all about happiness, nothing more and nothing less.

....Okay..........

Your "....Okay....." reply seems to be another form of ".....So......".

So..... what is it that makes fascists and their ilk believe that their happiness must come at the expense of others? It appears you can't feel good about yourself without having someone else to look down on, regardless of whether the one you choose to look down on is actually below you in any real sense of the word.

Such a world view isn't a philosophy; it's a personality disorder that afflicts enough people that some of them band together to reinforce their narrow-mindedness and misery.

Joseph Campbell taught some valuable lessons regarding duplicitiues and dichotomies. There is so much that all human beings have in common, and so much they could accomplish by seeking out their commonalities and learning to leverage them through common causes and action.

However, that possibility is negated when people constantly seek out their differences and attempt to use the distinctions for their own aggrandizement.

Maximus · 03-18-2008, 10:15 PM

Ever heard the expression " Somebody has to lose for someone to win "?

There are winners and there are losers, but there are a hell of a lot more losers than winners which makes winners much more superior than your average loser.

What we define as a loser and as a winner, that, is subject to change and interpretation by society.

I personally don't believe there is such a thing as happiness I've run through this before that all we have is our perceptions and opinions, there are people who think that having sex with dozens of people at one time is happiness.

I'm just striving to attain self fulfillment, like we all are, I stated before too that all humans do is waste time until they die, I believe I've found a good way for myself to waste my time.

**Skepticologist** · 03-19-2008, 10:19 PM

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Ever heard the expression " Somebody has to lose for someone to win "?

There are winners and there are losers, but there are a hell of a lot more losers than winners which makes winners much more superior than your average loser.

What we define as a loser and as a winner, that, is subject to change and interpretation by society.

I personally don't believe there is such a thing as happiness I've run through this before that all we have is our perceptions and opinions, there are people who think that having sex with dozens of people at one time is happiness.

I'm just striving to attain self fulfillment, like we all are, I stated before too that all humans do is waste time until they die, I believe I've found a good way for myself to waste my time.

One of my all-time favorite quotes comes from an old song by James Taylor: "The secret of life is enjoying the passage of time." Whatever floats your boat is OK with me.