Maximus

It is however individuals that make the laws and decide what is just, vigilantiasm in numerous cases is usually agreeable by the majority of a nation's citizens. You don't hear too many people calling for the head of a man who killed a 20 count child molestor now do ya?

If I was in power I'd raise the punishment for child molestation way up, but since in liberal democracies such as Canada child molestation usually doesn't result in a longer sentence than 2 years, vigilantiasm is given as a much more favourable option.

The An-Jel

Proove this please

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Gettin' In Tune

Prove that Jews think that they are inherently superior or recant.

Please use a hypo-deductive method in your analysis.

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LadyLuck

Maximus, no offense, but I'm very glad you are not in charge of our judicial system...

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I think the basic idea of morality has to do with community as an evolutionary survival technique.

I would define community as organisms of a species combining abilities and resources to enhance survival of the indiviual organism and, in turn, the species as a whole. The species benefits from a healthy organism and the organism benefits from a healthy species.

Humans have to combine abilities and resources to survive, if for no other reason, propagation. For this interaction between organisms to occur, there has to be a predictable and inherant understanding between participants of how the process of interrelating is going to work.

Therefore, I believe the root of morality is the shared understandings of interrelations amongst a community all for the benefit of improved survival.

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Maximus

That's fair, because I hate liberals, I mean really, I wish they could just all be rounded up and shot, seriously I want them all to die.

Probability_Amplitude

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Skepticologist

Sorry, but I just can't let that kind of mindless diatribe go unchallenged any longer, even if you're just kidding (your are just kidding, right?). Otherwise, it's such a Minimus reply from someone who calls himself Maximus.

If you are just kidding, then I guess I rose to the bait. If not, I'm sorry to say it wouldn't suprise me. There are a lot of sheep taking their cues from the likes of Rush Limbaugh, et. al.

If you listen long enough (more than a few seconds), you'll hear all about this huge liberal conspiracy to completely do away with democracy as it's come to be known in this country. But what I've never heard a viable explanation for, is why? What's in it for the left wing to bring about the collapse of democracy, even if we could?

It's easy enough to see what's in it for the conservatives to attempt to silence the liberals. Once that's done, then they can go about their schemes to get rich without all the pesky reminders that the less-privileged in this first-world country are living in third-world conditions, with no hope of anything better.

Do the conservatives care? (I think I just heard you say you don't, by damn!) Only enough to offer some ear-soothing platitudes about compassionate conservatism, faith-based social services, and other empty phrases like no child left behind. Of course, what all that translates to is "I'll be compassionate as long as it doesn't cost me anything"; "Churches will keep the indigent off the streets while we pour billions into an unjustified war which we can only lose"; and "Let's pretend we really want some poor black or hispanic kid competing with our kids' Ivy League educations".

Those kinds of platitudes are useful, because they sound just good enough to keep the lid on the simmering frustration of poor people who are living under the promise of the American dream while firmly trapped in a nightmare.

As a liberal who tries to keep his eyes open, I know it's just a matter of time before there's a revolution. (I can hear you now: "See, I knew the guy was a commie! But revolutions occur in contexts other than Belshevik or Cuban. They occur at any time just plain folks trying to make a living and maybe get a little ahead finally understand that the powers that be just ain't gonna let it happen. (Seems like I remember something about that from my American history class.)

But whether there's an impending revolution or not, I'm concerned because it just ain't right for citizens of the greatest nation on the face of the earth to be suffering when we have so much. A lot of people refuse to think that they could very easily be in the same situation, but I know I could if it weren't for some careful planning and extraordinary luck.

If you can't admit that to yourself (is your last name Gates or Buffett?), then be concerned for no other reason than that history teaches that the people will rise up when pushed to their limits. If you want to avoiod the revolution, dig a little deeper into your shallow heart and try to find some real caring and compassion that means a little more than words that are worth no more than the breath it takes to utter them.

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Maximus

Who?

.........okay now are you just kidding or are you an idiot? I am a fascist, how many times do I have to say that and no I'm not kidding, morality and ethics don't concern me and I myself do not believe in democracy, my God man! Liberalism is all about appeasing as much of the majority so you are blindfully given democratic support, that's what liberalism is, take canada for example, liberals have given mentally handicap individuals the right to vote, prisoners the right to vote and because of liberals, idiotic laws such as hate crime exist. Liberals use democracy as a tool for having the idiot majority think if they're allowed to vote by liberals and are given more " rights " by liberals everything is peachy.





The greatest nation on earth is Switzerland, and then after them I'd have to say Iceland, then perhaps Sweden or Denmark, but also Japan, then Norway makes a case and of course we have Luxembourg. Seriously though Switzerland is tops, it's economy is independent from the rest of the world and they run the largest banking operation on the planet, rich people from numerous nations put their money in Swiss hands, Switzerland also has a massive reserve army in terms of percentage of populous, their HDI is extremely high as is their life expectancy and also, Switzerland also has one of the lowest obesity rates in the world, unemployment is very low and well, i can go on and on, they haven't been in a war in almost 200 years etc

I live in Canada, I have however spent a total of 8 months in the U.S. over the course of 10 years, I travel a lot, to the U.S and abroad, the U.S. in reality is the most hated nation on earth, education is low, military is only large because you have 300 million people, half of which aren't even fit to run a 200 meter race, I mean....okay look I'll stop, you obviously don't know what I'm talking about, your whole post was directed towards a republican living in the U.S. which I am far from.

LadyLuck

Again, very glad.

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