Jesus - Page 11

jaej · 06-05-2007, 02:08 PM

The only reason's you've given are health-related. You've given no moral issues, other than if you look at someone who is good looking you lust for them, which is wrong. First, it's not lust. Lust is different from wanting to have sex. Second, what's so wrong with wanting to have sex with someone? It's a basic human drive. There are plenty of people I want to have sex with, and if you say it's different for you chap you're just lying. It doesn't control my life though, which is what lust is.

jaej · 06-05-2007, 02:09 PM

Nymphomaniac's lust. Prostitutes don't; for them it's just business. lol

Chapstiquelova · 06-05-2007, 03:36 PM

morals, are your not laying around with a million people, and if theyre laying around with you, what makes you think your sooo special that your the ONLY and that your their no.1?
I have seen some disfunctional families, some had kids them got married or are having kids, but arent married.....lol

jaej · 06-05-2007, 10:27 PM

Not really sure what that says...Do you think you could type in sentences instead of broken fragments?

lauraclay · 06-10-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chapstiquelova

lol...trust me i dont need to wait, you'd be suprised how many teens girls my age look at a guy, in fact a played a sport at a christian school, you should have heard those girls talking..............but any way, I agree with roman, its lack of self control, and even more, when you lust how easy is it to turn your head from that nice looking guy standing there....How easy will it be when your dating someone, if your so used to "looking" not to look? and then your not being true, or even marriage...when your married if you spent time lusting how easy is it going to be not to lust after other men?
Lust can lead to even harder to beat things.
Knowing that someone looks good, and lusting are two different things i want you to realize that.....But its when you focus on that good looking person, and things start going through your mind....and things may not, but you really shouldnt be looking any way...and another thing, does it bother you when a guy looks at you like your a peice of meat? or just keeps looking, and looking, and makes you feel uncomfortable well guess what he's prolly doing?
Lusting. And Women do the same thing to guys sometimes i dont know if guys take it as some women do as a "not good" thing or not, but whn your looking that man down, what are you doing to him that those men were doing to you? Lusting...and Lustin also takes away from learning about someone.
Some pleasing to the eye, not so much to the soul, some not pleasing to the eyes but they are pleasing to the soul, and some have both.
But lusting makes you look totaly past who a pperson is, instead of looking at that your looking AT WHAT a person is.

I don't get what's wrong with looking. If you have a boyfriend, there is nothing wrong with looking at a hot guy. If you think there is, you're insecure with your relationship.

lauraclay · 06-10-2007, 07:43 PM

Ok, Chap. I'm not saying sleeping with everyone you meet is good. And I'm not saying sleeping with people right away is good. But if you love someone, you don't have to be married first. And you don't have to expect so much. I know several girls who have gotten pregnant, and the man stayed. I also know a couple girls who the guy didn't stay, and guess what, they're doing fine. Also, I'm pretty sure the Pill has a 99% effectiveness rate if taken properly. Condoms are also a bit higher, if used correctly. You make sex sound like it's this horrible thing unless you're married, because the boy probably doesn't love you. Well guess what? People get divorced. Just cuz he married you doesn't mean you're going to be together forever. Even if you're married, he could leave you if you get pregnant. It happens. Also, hearing girls talk about sex on the bench is not the same as having the hormones. Ask around, virginity isn't all it's cracked up to be. Yes, many girls regret their first. But then again, who doesn't regret ex-boyfriends?

Chapstiquelova · 06-11-2007, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lauraclay

I don't get what's wrong with looking. If you have a boyfriend, there is nothing wrong with looking at a hot guy. If you think there is, you're insecure with your relationship.

lol, im not in a relationship nor have i had a previous relationship.
There is a difference between thinking someone is Good looking and lusting.

Chapstiquelova · 06-11-2007, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lauraclay

Ok, Chap. I'm not saying sleeping with everyone you meet is good. And I'm not saying sleeping with people right away is good. But if you love someone, you don't have to be married first. And you don't have to expect so much. I know several girls who have gotten pregnant, and the man stayed. I also know a couple girls who the guy didn't stay, and guess what, they're doing fine. Also, I'm pretty sure the Pill has a 99% effectiveness rate if taken properly. Condoms are also a bit higher, if used correctly. You make sex sound like it's this horrible thing unless you're married, because the boy probably doesn't love you. Well guess what? People get divorced. Just cuz he married you doesn't mean you're going to be together forever. Even if you're married, he could leave you if you get pregnant. It happens. Also, hearing girls talk about sex on the bench is not the same as having the hormones. Ask around, virginity isn't all it's cracked up to be. Yes, many girls regret their first. But then again, who doesn't regret ex-boyfriends?

ok, but wouldnt you like to mary a virgin someone who knew that one day they would marry so you were the only who got to be with them in that manner?
sounds to me your saying its ok to have sex with more than one, and if you Love someone and they love you, then their wouldnt be no "ex" after sex.
Me and virginity, well to me it is what its cracked up to be, i dont have to worry about the guy if i get pregnant and i dont have to worry about my health or safety i dont have to worry about "my" Guy going and telling his buds what was supposed to be our "act" of "love"
and there is a difference between regreting an ex and regreting sex.
and poeple get divorced yes. But marry someone you love. marriage is supposed to be God based yes i know some of you are thinking im nuts, and supposedto be focused on the person you marry and men cheat on women cuza the "lust' factor and women do the same to the man.
I am not saying men are the "bad" ones girls can be just as cruel.

Og · 06-11-2007, 12:43 PM

I'm sorry that the church has such a hold on your mind Chap. It's unfortunate you can't find more power over your body and experience the world (of which sex is a deep and important part).

But you're probably right. It's generally best if people had your perspective. Most people are too dumb to deal with the consequences (and remain a happy person) in the world today where sex is concerned.

Chapstiquelova · 06-11-2007, 01:18 PM

Og although the first thing wasnt a compliment, thanx for the second thing...
and I know sex is an important part, but its an important part for guy i marry.
and actually church if at the right one yes teaches me things but their have been stupid things told to me, so church isnt the only thing that I believe in and i do understand when to disagree and like i said i have. I've left church's before.