Geshtinnanna

It's the time of the month. What's your excuse? Wanna keep this up? I already took it to pm but I could go on into describing the size of my blood clots.

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kjk437

So, uh, how about them Cardinals, eh? Helluva game...

*runs*

pseudonous

QuantumTheory,

As an american of polish descent whom does not identify nor has any desire to identify himself as polish I find the idea of a jewish agnostic/atheist baffling. What could any single culture offer that every other culture could not amplify? I love eating a variety of ethnic foods. Why deny yourself these things, if you do not have a religious belief? Do all jewish atheists practice a secular religion? If so what are its tenets? What would be their basis for a kinship with Israel? Do their feelings of belonging lean more to their nationality or ethnicity? These are things I would like to know.

Jayhawker Soule

Two hours of disagreement leads you to be hypersensitive, rude, and crude, yet you dismissively view those sensitized by two millennia of antisemitism, pogrom, and genocide as 'amusing'. Nor is this some minor idiosyncratic defect, reflecting as it does much the same attitude as that underlying holocaust denial.

Geshtinnanna

No. I find the posts here amusing. And honestly being amused by whatever I want is not against the law.

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Jayhawker Soule

No, it is not. Shalom.

niranjan

I understand your point. I have been to a few jewish forums, just to study judaism , and I found a few of them addressing themselves as the 'chosen people ' and stuff.

There is indeed an article in wikipedia 'chosen people '.

Perhaps this could be the reason why they have a superiority complex, which i too have perceived in some.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chosen_people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_as_a_chosen_people



However it should also be understood that these people have suffered a lot, and my heart feels for them.

The jewish genocide perpetrated by the nazis is pretty traumatizing for any sensitive being.

India is the only country in the world which has never persecuted its jewish refugees , who came there escaping roman tyranny, on the grounds of religion, culture or ethnicity.

The Hindu kings gave them rights and privileges in India and full freedom of worship.

When the portuguese catholic christians conquered Goa in India, they slaughtered many jews in the goan inquisition, till the portuguese were defeated and checked by the Hindu maratha warriors.

I see that many fundamentalist christians, including martin luther , the father of protestantism, harboured anti-semitism.

They were also persecuted by islamic terrorists, in the granada massacre.


They indeed had a nightmare of a past from the nazis, islamic fundamentalists, and the christian fundamentalists.

If possible go through Anne Frank's 'Autobiography of a young girl ', which is a moving account written by a young jewish girl , while she was hiding from the nazis , with her family in holland.

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The An-Jel

I really do empathise, I really do, the Christians had the Romans, the Muslims have themselves and the greed ridden free world, the Jews had the holocaust, the Catholics have themselves, and the list goes on and on. My point is yeah all religions feel that they are the chosen ones. It's a matter of Faith. I mean the first Arabs that became Jews as I understand it were persecuted by the Romans as well. Jews aren't a race they are a faith and they're physical heritage is Arabic. As gentle as people try to be essentially that is where Jews come from and that is what they are. Culture is a different animal.

I care less what I am labelled as, all faiths and most "races" have been persecuted. Time sensitizes the wounds for sure. The Holocaust is still very fresh in some peoples minds and for the Jewish well... they are the chosen ones and every affront will stick in their minds for sure if not written about for years and years.

Nevertheless my statement holds true. Their ego stands larger than themselves.

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Geshtinnanna

If this is a sensitive subject with you, then I apologize for hurting your feelings and being misunderstood. My posts were about the members here and their sensitivity and actually had nothing to do with any subject beyond this board. The continual derailment of this thread though (even after I stated I was going into pm to keep the derailment to a minimum) is indeed proving my point in the first place. Which is indeed amusing.

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Gettin' In Tune

You just don't give up. Here is an interesting fact you can use to support your resentment of Jews

Source:http://judaism.about.com/od/american...plishments.htm

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