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Old 09-09-2007, 03:21 AM   #51 (permalink)
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The Holy Qur'an says in Surah Tariq, Ch. No. 86, Verse No. 5 to 7… ‘Let now man think from what he is created - he is created from a drop, emitted from a space between the backbone and the ribs’. Today we have come to know, the genital organs - the testes, in the males, and the ovaries in the female, in the Embryonic stage - they develop from a space, where the kidney is present today, between the backbone and the 11th and 12th rib. Later on the testes they descend to the inguinal canal, into the scrotum - and the ovaries in the female to the true pelvis. But in the Embryonic stage, It is in the space which the Qur'an speaks about… ‘between the backbone, the spinal column and the 11th and 12th rib’. Even in the adult life after the Genital organs they descend - yet they receive the blood supply - the nerve supply and the lymphatic drainage from the same space between the spinal column and the 11th and 12th rib. The holy Qur'an mentions in Surah Muminun, Ch. No. 23, Verse No. 13, as well as Surah Al Hajj, Ch. No. 22, Verse No. 5 that… ‘We have created the human beings from a ‘Nutfah’ . The Arabic word ‘Nutfah’ - that the human beings have been created from ‘Nutfah’, is mentioned in the Qur'an no less than 11 times and the word ‘Nutfah’, is mentioned 12 times, but human beings created from ‘Nutfah’ is mentioned 11 times. The Arabic word ‘Nutfah’ means a minute quantity of liquid. The Holy Qur'an says in Surah Sajdah, Ch. No. 32, Verse No. 8, that… ‘We have created the human beings from a quintessence of liquid’. The Arabic word is ‘Sulala’ meaning a minute quantity, or the best part of the whole. And today we have come to know, only one sperm actually - it penetrates the ovum, and only one sperm is required to fertilize the ovum, out of the tens of millions of sperms, which the man ejaculates. Qur'an refers to it as ‘Sulala’, the best part of the whole or ‘Nutfah’ a minute quantity. The Qur'an says in Surah Insaan, Ch. No. 76, Verse No. 2…(Arabic) … The word means ‘Nutfanmsaj’ means… ‘We have created the human being from a minute quantity of mingled fluids’. ‘Nutfanamsaj’, minute quantity of mingled fluids. This can refer to the male and female gametes - after they are formed… the ‘Zygote’ - it yet remains a ‘Nutfah’ - a minute quantity of liquid. It can also refer to the spermatic fluid, which contains several secretions from various glands, like the testis, the ‘Sero fluid’, which contains the ‘Spermatozoons’ - it also includes the secretions from the Seminal ‘Vessicles’, the seminal fluids, which is a reservoir of ‘Somatel Zoones’, but does not contain the fertilizing agent. Also it refers the secretion of the Prostatic glands, which gives the creamy texture and the characteristic odour to the sperm, as well as glands attached to the Urinary tract - the Coopers gland or the Litters gland, which gives the specific texture of mucous, to the sperm. The Qur'an refers to as 'Nutfanamsaj'… to minute quantity of mingled fluid - male and female gametes surrounded by these fluids which are responsible, for the birth of the human being. The Holy Qur'an says in Surah Al Zumur, Ch. No. 39, Verse No. 6… ‘We have created the human beings in the wombs of their mother, in stages - one after the other in three veils of darkness’. Professor Keith Moore said these three veils of darkness refers to the Anterior Abdominal wall of the mother, the Uterine wall, and the Amnio - Chodionic membrane. The Qur'an also speaks about ‘Genetics’. The Qur'an says… in Surah Najm, Ch. No. 53, Verse No. 45 and 46, that… ‘We have created the human beings and made them into male and female through minute quantity of liquid which is ejaculated’. But natural if it is ejaculated, it has to be a male fluid. Qur'an says it is the male which is responsible for the sex of the child. The Qur'an repeats this message in Surah Qiyamah, Ch. No. 75, Verse No. 37, and 39, that… ‘We have created the human beings from a minute quantity of sperm and then made it into an ‘Alaqa’ - a leech-like substance - then gave it due proportion, then made it into sex male - and female’. The Arabic word ‘Nutfatam Minmani Yumna’, means a minute quantity of sperm. Qur'an says a minute quantity of sperm is required for sex of the child. Today science has come to know that the sex of the child depends upon the 23rd pair of Chromosome, and it is the sperm which is responsible for deciphering the sex of the child. If it is 'XX'… it is a female. If it is an 'XY'… it is a male. Qur'an has mentioned this 1400 years ago. In a society, specially in the Indian society, for reasons known best to them, people prefer having a male child. And suppose the daughter in law, if she gives birth to a female child, the mother-in-law normally blames the daughter-in-law. If the mother-in-law has to blame anyone, she should blame the son, not the daughter-in-law… because the Holy Qur'an and science tells us, that it is the male which is responsible for the sex of the child and not the female. The Qur'an describes the various Embryological stages in great detail. In Surah Muminun, Ch. No. 23, Verse No 12 to 14, it says… ‘We have created the human beings from a quintessence of clay, then made it into a drop, placed it into ‘Qarare Makeen’ place of security, then made it into an ‘Alaqa’, something which clings, a leech like substance, made that ‘Alaqa’ into ‘Mudga’, a chewed like lump, made that ‘Mudga’, into ‘Izama’ bones, then clothed the ‘Izama’, bones with ‘Lahem’ that is flesh and then made it into a creature – Blessed is He, the best to create’.
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This verse of the Holy Qur'an, from 12 to 14 of Surah Muminun, Ch. No. 23, describes the Embryological stages in great detail. It starts with saying… ‘We have placed the ‘Nutfah’ the minute quantity into ‘Qaraare Makeen’, a place of security’. Today Embryology tells us, that the Embryo is protected posteriorily by the back bone and the posterior muscles of the mother - anteriorily by, the anterior abdominal wall, by the uterine wall as well as the Amnochodianic membrane. It continues… ‘then we made it into an ‘Alaqa’, a leech like substance, something which clings’. The Arabic word ‘Alaqa’, has got 3 meanings: something which clings, a leech like substance, as well as blood clot. Alhamdulillah, all three meanings are applicable here, because the Embryo, in the initial stages - it clings to the uterine wall of the mother. It looks like a ‘leech’, as confirmed by Professor Keith Moore. It also behaves like a ‘leech’, it behaves like a blood sucker, it derives the blood supply and the nutrition from the mother. And at this stage - if an abortion takes place, the concept is, it looks like a blood clot. It looks like a blood clot as well as a leech. So Qur'an, in one word it implies three meanings, which all are applicable. Qur'an mentions this word ‘Alaqa’ no less then six times. Twice in Surah Muminun, Ch. No. 23, Verse No. 12 to 14; Surah Hajj, Ch. No. 22, Verse No 5; Surah Ghafir, Ch. No. 40, Verse 67; Surah Qiyamah, Ch. No. 75, Verse 38; as well as in Surah Iqra, Ch. No. 96, Verse No 2. Six times it is mentioned. Previously, in the 17th century people thought that the sperm, it walled a miniature human being. A miniature human being was present in the head of the sperm, which later on developed into the uterus of the mother, as a new born baby. This was believed by Swamadamm, who proposed the ‘Perforation theory’. Later on, when they discovered that the ovum is bigger than the sperm - De Graaf and others, they said it is not the sperm which walls a miniature human being - It is the ovum which walls a miniature human being. Later on, Mophartus in the eighteen century, he proposed the ‘Bi-parental theory’ - that both are responsible. As the Qur'an says, both the sperm and the ovum is responsible for the birth of the child. Qur'an says, we made that ‘Alaqa’, into a ‘Mudga’. ‘Mudga’ means ‘chewed like lump’, or something tacky which can be put in the mouth. Professor Keith Moore said, ‘both these meanings are applicable, because it is something tacky which can be put in the mouth’ - and later on he took a plaster seal and bit it between his teeth, to look like a Mudga, ‘a chewed like lump’. And he was astonished that the teeth marks resembled the ‘Somites’, from which develops the spinal column. The Qur'an says, 'We made that ‘Mudga’ into ‘Izama’… bones. We clothed the ‘Izaman’ with ‘lahem’… flesh, and muscles. Allah says… ‘Then, We create the ‘Al-Nasha’ stage, We create a new creature’. What does the Qur'an mean … ‘We have created a new creature’? - Science today, tells us that the embryological stages of development, before this stage, in the rabbit, in the fish, in the other animals, it is similar to that of the human beings. It is only at this stage of ‘Al-Nasha’, that the particular characteristics of the human beings are seen - the head, the hands and the feet. The Qur'an says… ‘We have made a new creature’, and ends by saying – ‘Blessed is He, who is the best to create’. Imagine, Qur'an gives the various Embryological stages in great detail.
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Old 09-09-2007, 03:22 AM   #53 (permalink)
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There was a person who put forward an argument – ‘It is nothing new; may be some Arab - he opened up the abdomen of a pregnant woman and checked the shape and wrote in the Qur'an’. He did not realise that all these stages, which the Qur'an describes, it cannot be observed with the naked human eye - you require a very powerful microscope. When Professor Marshall Johnson was asked to comment of these Verses - He is the head of the department of ‘Anatomy’ in the Daniel Institute, in Sir Thomas Jefferson's hospital in Philadelphia, USA. He said – ‘It can be possible that Prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him) - he had a microscope and he observed it’. Then, he was reminded that… ‘Microscope was not invented 1400 years ago’. So, Professor Marshall Johnson laughed loudly, and he said – ‘Yes, I know that - and I have seen the first microscope with my own eyes - It hardly enlarges to ten times and the picture is not even clear’. Then he said – ‘These stages has to be a Divine Revelation’. He was further asked to comment, on the verse of the Qur'an from Surah Hajj, Ch. No. 22, Verse No 5, which says… ‘We have created the human beings from dust then made it into an ‘Alaqa’, made it into a ‘Mudga’, partly formed and partly unformed’. When you take an incision at this stage, and analyze the Embryo - and cut up the internal organs, you will find out that the internal organs at this particular stage, some of the organs are formed while the other organs - they are not formed. So Professor Marshall Johnson said – ‘If I said, that it is a complete creation, I am only describing those organs which are formed’ - If I say It is an incomplete creation, I am only describing those organs which are not formed. There can be no better description than the Holy Qur'an, saying… ‘Partly formed and partly unformed’, because some organs are formed, the others are not formed - some cells are differentiated, the others are not differentiated’. Professor Keith Moore said, that… ‘Today in Embryology we have got several stages of the Embryological development, but it is so difficult, to understand it, because it has got numerical stages - stage 1, stage 2, stage 3. The Qur'an bases the stages on shapes, and predated development, which is far superior and easy than what modern Embryology has done today’. If the Embryologists… they describe according to the stages of the Qur'an, it is far more easier for them to describe and understand, than what modern Embryology has done - stage 1, stage 2, stage 3. The Qur'an says in Surah Abasa, Ch. No. 80, Verse 19 and 20… ‘We have created the human beings from minute quantity and We have made the passage of birth easy’.
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People normally wonder, that how can the birth canal which hardly admit is 3 to 4 fingers - how can a baby come out of it? The bony structure is so rigid, it has got Ligament - How is it possible? Qur'an says… ‘Allah makes the pathway easy’. And today we have come to know that how is it possible. Relaxin is being secreted by the ovaries and the placenta which loosens the ligament of the pelvic joints and softens the cervix. The uterine contraction that take place, it pushes the baby downwards in the birth canal. The bag of water which ruptures, it provides a slippery surface for the baby to come out, to slide and the various movements of the baby, while birth facilitates the movement through the irregular pelvic joints. Qur'an say that… ‘Allah makes the pathway easy’. Qur'an is giving you signs. It is showing you various Embryological stages. Who could have described all these stages? They are asking you a question – ‘Will you not then believe? … Will you not then believe in the Holy Qur'an?’ The Qur'an says in Surah Sajda, Ch. No. 32, Verse No 9… ‘We have given the human beings the faculty of hearing and sight’. It is repeated in Surah Insaan, Ch. No. 76, Verse No 2… ‘We have given the faculty of hearing and sight, to the human being’. Today we have come to know the first sense to develop, is the sense of hearing - Qur'an says… ‘First hearing then sight’. By the fifth month of pregnancy It is complete - the ear, later on in the seventh month of pregnancy, the eye split is open. Imagine Qur'an gives the order - first comes hearing, then comes sight. Professor Durgarao, who is an expert in the field of ‘Marine Geology’ who is teaching in the university of King Abdul Aziz in Jeddah, he was asked to give his comments on a verse of the Holy Qur'an. From Surah Nur, Ch. No. 24, Verse No. 40, which says that… ‘The state of the unbeliever is like the depth of darkness in a vast deep ocean, overwhelmed with waves topped with waves, topped with dark clouds, the depths of darkness, one layered over the other. When a man stretches out his hand, he can hardly see it, Allah gives light to whom He wishes. If He does not give light you cannot see’. Professor Durgarao, he said that… ‘This verse of the Holy Qur'an is not speaking about a normal sea – It is speaking about a deep sea. And today, only with the help of things like submarines, we have come to know the depths of the oceans - It is dark. Previously, we did not know that, because a man cannot go unaided, more than 20 to 30 metres under water - And if he goes more than 200 metres unaided, he dies. It is today, we have come to know, by the instruments that we have, that the depths of ocean is dark’. And he said… ‘This darkness is due to two phenomena - first is due to successive absorption of the colours in layers’. As we all know, the light has got Seven colours - And we learnt in school for remembering easy: VIBGYOR, the colours of the rainbow. Vibgyor - V for violet, I for Indigo, B for blue, G for Green, Y for Yellow, O for Orange, and Red… R for Red – Vibgyor… Seven colours. Professor Durgarao said, that ‘When the light enters the ocean - by the first 15 to 20 meters, the Red colour is absorbed’. And if a man goes under water about 30 meters deep, and if he bleeds, if he has a wound, he will not be able to see his own blood - because Red colour does not reach there. Later on, 30 to 50 metres absorbs Orange. Yellow is absorbed by next 50 to 100 metres, green by 100 to 200 metres, and blue beyond 200 metres, and violet and indigo much above 200 metres. Therefore, the layers of darkness you see in the ocean, is due to the absorption of light in successive layers’. ‘The second reason for these layers’, Professor Durgarao said… ‘is due to barriers, like the clouds’. When the sunlight hits is the cloud, the cloud absorbs the light - therefore there is darkness below the cloud, then the light is scattered. After getting scattered, it hits is at the superficial waves of the ocean. This is the second barrier, the waves reflect the light further, the superficial waves of the ocean. Those light rays which are not reflected, they enter the ocean. Therefore, you have two types of layers in the ocean: ‘the superficial layer and the deep layer’. The superficial layer is warm and lit up, the deep layers, they are dark. And this superficial and deep layer of the ocean - it is divided by internal waves. We human beings did not know, that even there were internal waves - We only knew of superficial waves. It was only in 1900, that we have come to know that there are even waves deep in the water. They are known as internal waves, which divide the superficial part of the ocean and the deep part of the ocean. Imagine the Qur'an mentions that… ‘the unbelievers' state is like the depth of darkness in a vast deep ocean, overwhelmed with waves topped with waves’. That means - deep waves are there, internal waves are there, topped with superficial waves. And it further continues… ‘topped with dark clouds’. The clouds are the barriers, and even the clouds are in layers. And when a man stretches out his hand, he can hardly see it. ‘Only if Allah gives light, can they see’. Even the fish that swim in the deep part of the ocean, they cannot see unless they have their own light with them. They have their own lights with them. Even the submarine that goes underwater, it carries its own light, otherwise they cannot see underwater. So when Professor Durgarao was asked, how come this is mentioned in the Qur'an 1400 years ago, he said – ‘It is impossible for any human being to mention this verse - This Qur'an has to be a Divine Revelation’.The Holy Qur'an says in Surah Qiyamah, Ch. No. 75, Verse No. 3 and 4… ‘The unbelievers ask, that how will Allah (SWT) be able to reassemble our bones’. Allah says… ‘We can not only reassemble the bones, We can even reconstruct in perfect order the very finger tips’. When the unbelievers say… ‘After we are buried, after our bones have got disintegrated, how will Allah (SWT) on the day of judgment, reassemble our bones’. So Allah says… ‘He will not only be able to reassemble the bones, He can even reconstruct your very fingertip in perfect order’. It is referring to the finger printing method, which was discovered by Sir Francis Gold in 1880, and he said that - ‘No two finger prints, of two individuals are equal even in a million people’. No wonder the police, the CID, the CIA, the FBI - they use the finger printing method to identify the culprit. Qur'an speaks about that 1400 years ago… ‘Allah can not only reassemble the bones, he can even reconstruct in perfect order the very finger tips’. Allah (SWT) is asking you in Surah Nisa, Ch. No. 4 Verse 82… (Arabic)… ‘Do not you consider the Qur'an with care? – Do not you ponder over the Qur'an with care? that if it had been from any one besides Allah, there would have been many contradiction - there would have been many discrepancies’. Qur'an is giving you a challenge - Here is the Holy Qur'an, try and take out a single discrepancy - try and take out a single fault in the Holy Qur'an. It is giving you a challenge, an open challenge…. ‘Why don't you analyze the Qur'an with care - had it been from anyone besides Allah, there would have been many contradictions’.
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I would like to end my talk by giving the example of Professor Tagata Tagashon. Previously, the doctors they thought that only the brain was responsible for feeling of pain. It is now we have come to know that there are certain receptors in the skin, called as ‘pain receptors’, which are also responsible of feeling of pain. No wonder when a patient of burn injury comes to a doctor, he takes a pin and he pricks it in that area. If the patient feels pain, doctor is very happy - It means It is a superficial burn, the pain receptors are intact. If he does not feel pain, It is a deep burn, the pain receptors have been destroyed. The Qur'an says in Surah Nisa, Ch. No. 4, Verse No. 56, ‘As to those who reject our signs, We shall cast them into the hell fire, and as often as their skins are roasted, We shall give them fresh skins, so that they shall feel the pain’. Qur'an says… ‘If your skin is roasted, We shall give you fresh skin, so that you'll feel the pain’. Giving an indication… there is something in the skin which is responsible for the feeling of pain – Indication is the pain receptor. When Professor Tagada Tagashon, who is the head of the department of Anatomy, in Shangma University in Thailand - he was given the translation of this verse. And he has spent a lot of time in doing research on pain receptors, he said… ‘It is impossible that Qur'an can mention this. We discovered it recently – How is it possible?’ - He did not agree with it. Later on, after checking with the Holy Qur'an, after verifying the Holy Qur'an, he was so impressed, that in the 8th Medical Saudi Conference, in Riyadh in the Conference, he said the Shahadah … ‘La Ilaha Il Allah, Muhammadur Rasulallah’. ‘There is no God but Allah, and Prophet Muhammed is the messenger of Allah (SWT)’.

For more information about Scientific Miracles of Qur'an to the link beside Embryology there are much more Miracles about Science which Qur'an mentioned 1400 years before http://n-islam.com/index.php?mod=art...0and%20Science
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Wais, what if the Qur'anic knowledge was actually acquired from extraterrestrial beings who did have access to high-power microscopes? I find that much more likely and believable than a "revelation" from an invisible god.

However, because a first-trimester aborted embryo does look somewhat like a leech and somewhat like a blood clot, I can see just about anyone using their imagination and coming up with that particular analogy. Despite the awe of the scientists you quoted, I don't see anything miraculous in it at all.

(Oh, and please use paragraphs... It's tiring on the eyes to read the huge blocks of text that you post.)
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you people have no knowledge by using such as words ..

Despite the awe of the scientists you quoted, I don't see anything miraculous in it at all.


hahaha you don't even know the Famour scientists and don't agree with them che che when some one is against some thing they always see to that wrong..... Really you people are owner of this act which is mentioned in surah baqarah ch:2 verse:18 the deaf, dumb , blind they will never return to the right path. because you said to this big miracles i don't agree .. any how

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Dear Waiz

You gotten wright off ther track of the question I asked.
I think this means you will not or cannot aNSWER IT.

yOU MENTIONED IN ONE OF THE MANY REPLIES,
"In the field of ‘Diet and Nutrition’ lets analyse, what does the Bible say. The Bible says in the book of Genesis, Ch. No.1, Verse No.29, that… ‘God has given you all the herbs bearing seeds, the trees bearing fruits - those that bear seed, as meat for you.’ New International Version says… ‘The seed bearing plants, and the trees bearing fruits bearing seeds are food for you, all of them.’ Today, even a layman knows that there are several poisonous plants like wild berries, stritchi, datura, plants containing alkaloid, polyander, bacaipoid - that which if you ingest, if you eat there are high possibilities you may die. How come the Creator of the universe and the human beings, does not know, that if you have these plants, you will die. I hope Christian Brothers/Sisters does not give these vegetarian diet to his patients."

tHIS SHOWS YOUR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF THE bIBLE AND GENESIS
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Dear Waiz

In genesis God made the universe and said it was good.
After the fall thorns and death came in.
See! Makes sense.
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Dear Waiz

again you show lack of understanding of the Bible and its true meaning.

You said,"The Bible has a scientific test how to identify a true believer. It is mentioned in the Gospel of Mark, Ch. No.16, Verse No.17 and 18 - It says that… ‘There will be signs for true believers and among the signs - In my name they shall cast out devils, they shall speak foreign tongues, new tongues, they shall take up serpents - And if they drink deadly poison, they shall not be harmed - And when they place their hand over the sick, they shall be cured."

To start this is not science!
Secondly it is not a test.
Third, the Bible also states false prophets will caste out demions and do miracles. So it proves nothing. If you know the Bible a true Christian shows something else. Love!! Read Corinthians 13, the Sermon on the mount and what Jesus did on the cross.

I have shown you your own Koran shows Jesus as your messiah and yet you still do not want to follow Him to heaven. He is the only one who died and rose again. Your own Koran says that.

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