wais shirzai

Bible says in Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses No. 3 and 5,…‘Light was created on the first day.’ Genesis, Ch., 1 Verses, 14 to 19… ‘The cause of light - stars and the sun, etc. was created on the fourth day’. How can the cause of light be created on the 4th day later than the light which came into existence on the first day? - It is unscientific. Bible says Genesis, Ch. 1, Verses 9 to 13… ‘Earth was created on the 3rd day. How can you have a night and day without the earth ? The day depends upon the rotation of the Earth Without the earth created, how can you have a night and day? , Genesis, Ch. No. 1 Verses 9 to 13 says… ‘Earth was created on the third day.’ Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses 14 to 19 says…‘The Sun and the Moon were created on the fourth day.’ Today science tells us… ‘Earth is part of the parent body… the sun.’ It cannot come into existence before the sun – It is unscientific. the Bible says in Genesis, Ch. No.1, Verse No. 11 to 13…‘The vegetation, the herbs the shrubs, the trees - they were created on the 3rd day And the Sun, Genesis, Ch. No. 1, Verses. 14 to 19, was created on the 4th day. How can the vegetation come into existence without sunlight, and how can they survive without sunlight ? It is mentioned in the Bible, in the book of Hebrews, Ch. No.1 Verses No.10 and 11, and the book of Psalms, Ch. No.102, Verse No.25 and 26, that…‘Almighty God created the Heavens and the Earth, and they will perish.’ Exactly opposite is mentioned in the book of Ecclesiastics, Ch. No.1, Verse No.4, and the book of Psalms, Ch. No.78, Verse No.69, that… ‘The earth will abide forever.’ One has to be unscientific - Both cannot take place. The world cannot abide forever as well as perish – It is unscientific. Regarding ‘the Heavens’, the Bible says in Job, Ch. 26, Verse 11, that…‘The pillars of the Heaven will tremble.’ Qur’an says in Surah Luqman, Ch. 31, Verse No.10, that…‘The Heavens are without any pillars - Don`t you see? Don’t you see the Heavens are without any pillars? - Bible says heaven have got pillars. Not only do the Heavens have got pillars - Bible says in the first book of Samuel, Ch. No.2 Verses No.8, as well as the book of Job Ch. No.9, Verse No.6, and the book of Psalms Ch. No.75, Verse No.3, that… ‘Even the earth have got pillars.

In the field of ‘Diet and Nutrition’ lets analyse, what does the Bible say. The Bible says in the book of Genesis, Ch. No.1, Verse No.29, that… ‘God has given you all the herbs bearing seeds, the trees bearing fruits - those that bear seed, as meat for you.’ New International Version says… ‘The seed bearing plants, and the trees bearing fruits bearing seeds are food for you, all of them.’ Today, even a layman knows that there are several poisonous plants like wild berries, stritchi, datura, plants containing alkaloid, polyander, bacaipoid - that which if you ingest, if you eat there are high possibilities you may die. How come the Creator of the universe and the human beings, does not know, that if you have these plants, you will die. I hope Christian Brothers/Sisters does not give these vegetarian diet to his patients. .

wais shirzai

The Bible has a scientific test how to identify a true believer. It is mentioned in the Gospel of Mark, Ch. No.16, Verse No.17 and 18 - It says that… ‘There will be signs for true believers and among the signs - In my name they shall cast out devils, they shall speak foreign tongues, new tongues, they shall take up serpents - And if they drink deadly poison, they shall not be harmed - And when they place their hand over the sick, they shall be cured.’ This is a scientific test - In scientific terminology, it is known as the ‘confirmatory test’ for a true Christian believer. In the past 10 years of my life, I have personally interacted with thousands of Christians, including missionaries - I have not come across a single Christian, who has passed this confirmatory test of the Bible. I have not come across a single Christian who took poison - I have not come across any who took poison, and who has not died. And in scientific terminology, this is also called as the ‘falsification test’ That means if a false person tries and does this test… takes poison, he will die. And a false person will not dare attempt this test - If you are not a true Christian believer, you will not dare attempt this test. Because you try and attempt the falsification test, you will fail. So a person who is not a true Christian believer, will never attempt this test.

If i agree Alexie is true believer i want him to pass the test i read his/her post said that am i an infidel or true believer don't mind i told you you are a true believer for sake of arguement you were attempting and showing to us that you are a true believer if you are? pass the test .. You shall know Doctor William Campbell from America he is a Christian our Muslim Brother Debate with him and present 22 scientific errors out of 100 available includeing contradictions he can't answer he didn't answer Even the Muslim Brother Agree For Sake of Arguement that he is True Believer and told him to Come forward to pass the test he was getting away from topic yet he didn't let him to go away he asked to pass the test and he said that i will look forward what is going to be happen i am not attempting this test and can't answer scientific errors this is what you people are arrogant as far what the christians are saying it shows that there isn't a single true believer of Christianity.. and our muslim brother challenge every one, whole World to present a single mistake from Qur'an and contradiction it means there is no contradiction not a single. and i Request from you you present the contradictions plz i love to answer your questions

Astreja

Fortunately, one need not assume that a book -- Any book -- is telling the truth. Via such things as the scientific method, our own experiences, and the experiences of others, we have the means to test the validity of a claim.

Obviously, the claim in the book of Genesis fails. Not all plants are safe to eat.

But disproving the Bible does not prove the validity of another belief. It isn't an either-or proposition, Wais... In the world of religion, there are other choices besides Islam, Judaism and Christianity. Everyone has a part of the truth, but in my opinion nobody has the entire truth. And, on issues where there is no physical evidence, everyone might be wrong.

wais shirzai

Hahah Don't Know Which Religion Follower Are You ?


Let me make it very clear it is mentioned in surah baqarah ch:2 verse:256 that there is no compulsion in religion. i am not forcing dear i wanna convey the truth and Islam is full of truth there is not a single Book which is beautiful than The Noble Qur'an..

You said that Obviously, the claim in the book of Genesis fails. Not all plants are safe to eat. this is what i say.... not all plants are safe to eat but Verses from Genesis says that you can have all plants... Including poisons haha.

Astreja

I am not a Christian and do not believe that the Bible is true. Nor am I interested in Judaism or Islam, as I do not believe that a single, omnipotent god is possible.

I do believe that lesser gods are possible, but I do not have sufficient evidence to prove that any such beings exist.

I am an extremely skeptical polytheist.

wais shirzai

hahah Dear Astreja I am an extremely skeptical polytheist. if you don't believe in god and don't wanna believe any religion i say and invite you to religion islam you Read the Glorious Qur'an what the Glorious Qur'an mentioned 1400 years before the Scientists Proves today i ask you who was the Human who could describe these things 1400 years before?

Astreja

Much of what is in the Qur'an was discovered by Greek scientists hundreds of years earlier. The Qur'an was not written in a world devoid of scientific knowledge.

I have read some sections of the Qur'an, but don't particularly like what I did read. In my opinion, it seems to be obsessed with the horrible fate that awaits non-believers. Furthermore, I can not and will not recite Sura Al-Fatiha because I simply do not believe it.

wais shirzai

Much of what is in the Qur'an was discovered by Greek scientists hundreds of years earlier. The Qur'an was not written in a world devoid of scientific knowledge.

that is what i said there wasn't knowledge of science at that time you said hundreds year before do you know what the stages of Embryology says it is descoverd some years before do you know what is the shape of the earth discoverd some years before do you know what the Qur'an said about modren science mentioned in the qur'an 1400 years before not now it is the miracle of the Qur'an as allah (s.w.t) says in surah fussailat ch:41 verse:53 Soon will We show them our Signs in the (furthest) regions (of the earth), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things? some require 1 sign some 100 some out of 1000 i present they yet don't believe Allah(s.w.t) calls such as people in surah baqarah ch:2 vesrE:18 the deaf,dumb, blind they will never return to the right path Bible says the same thing that seeing they see not hearing they hear not neither they could understand.

Astreja

False.

Any woman who has ever had a spontaneous abortion (or "miscarriage") is quite aware of at least one stage of embryology. (I myself have seen a fetus at the age of six weeks.) Combine thousands of similar observations by thousands of women who lose their babies at various times before birth, and one obtains a very clear knowledge of embryology. A god is not required to explain this to us. We already knew.

Pythagoras, c. 570 BCE. A thousand years before Islam. The idea of a spherical Earth was also conceived in India by Yajnavalkya, about three hundred years before that.

wais shirzai

In the field of ‘Embryology’, there were a group of Arab students who collected all the matter in the Holy Qur'an, dealing with ‘Embryology’. And they followed the guidance of the Holy Qur'an in Surah Furqan, Ch. No. 25, Verse 59, which says… ‘if you are in doubt, ask the person who knows - ask the person who is knowledgeable’. So they took all the data given in the Holy Qur'an dealing with ‘Embryology’, and presented it to Professor Keith Moore. Professor Keith Moore is the head and chairman of the department of Anatomy, in the University of Toronto in Canada, and is one of the leading authorities in the world in the field of Embryology. When Professor Keith Moore went through the translation of the various Verses No. of the Qur'an, dealing with Embryology, he said, that most of the things which the Qur'an speaks about Embryology is matching with the latest discoveries made in the field of Embryology, but there are a couple of things, which I cannot say that they are right. Neither can I say that they are wrong, because I myself do not know about it. And one such Verse, was from Surah Iqra, or Surah Alaq, Ch. No. 96, Verse No. 1 and 2 which says… (Arabic)… ‘Read, Recite or Proclaim - in the name of thy Lord, who created - who created the human beings from something which clings - a leech like substance’. So Professor Keith Moore said, I do not know whether the embryo looks like a leech or not. So he went in his laboratory and under a very powerful microscope, examined the shape of the early stage of Embryo, and compared it with a photograph of a leech, and he was astonished at the striking resemblance. And when he was asked about 80 questions on Embryology taken from the Holy Qur'an and Hadith, he said… ‘that if you would have asked me all these things 30 years ago, I would not be able to answer more than 50% of this. Because Embryology… the development of Embryology, is just recently, hardly 30 to 50 years, it is advanced’. And Professor Keith Moore, he had written a book - ' The Developing Human'… and in his new edition, the 3rd edition, he has incorporated the new things which he found from the Qur'an and the Hadith - for which he got an award for the best medical book written in that year by any single author. And when I was doing my MBBS in the first year, we referred to this book 'Developing Human' by Keith Moore. If we wanted to score high marks, in ‘Embryology’, we referred to the book by Keith Moore. If we wanted to get just passing marks, we referred to Inderbir Singh. But if we wanted to score, we had to refer to the book by Professor Keith Moore. And later on this book was translated into several languages of the world. Professor Keith Moore said, ‘I have got no objection, in accepting that Prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him) is the… the messenger of God Almighty, and that the Holy Qur'an has to be a Divine Revelation’.