INtro to ISLAM - Page 11

SirArthur · 09-20-2007, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by wais shirzai

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Originally Posted by SirArthur

Here's a bit of your beloved prophet biography:

Born about 570 d.C., approximately 50 years after Justinian plague.
Father: Abdullah
Mother: unknown

First marriage: Khadijah, a 44 y.o woman, Muhammad was by the age of about 20 to 25. She was widow, rich and his boss at the time.

610 d.C.: Muhammad's first hallucination at Hira's cave.

622 d.C.: Banned from Mecca, Muhammad runs to the Oasis of Yathrib, now Medina, it marks the Hegira on Muslim calendar, at the Oasis Muslim claims are that Muhammad was welcome - 3rd party History scholars refers he formed a gang and started to lot caravans on their way to Mecca, without supplies soon the rulers of Mecca have to surrender on the year 629 d.C. beginning your beloved PAX*.

Other beautiful deeds of Muhammad includes:

-Sentence people to be stoned to death (by adultery).
-Sentence people to be whipped (by drinking).
-Force the marriage with Bibi Aisha's, dealing with her father (means threating), when she was by the age of 6, consumed (means to have sex with her) when she was by the age of 9. He lived until the age of 52 and she was 18 at the time, so it means when he took her virginity she was 9 and he was already 42 years old.

Several distorted values can be found mostly on the Hadeeth.

Besides Peace for submission is not peace, is simply submission. One that accepts such condition without even complaint has no honor and most up not even an operative brain.

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NO HUMAN NOT ONLY MUSLIM CAN DIE OF STARVATION! I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE DIE OF STARVATION

Now this should go to the board of "stupidities people says because of religion"... you probably don't know anybody who died from starvation, but IT IS POSSIBLE, not much common just because lack of water brings the death quicker and when you have no food most likely you have no water also.

Rule of 3; A person dies if approximately:

spends 3 minutes without air
spends 3 days without drink
spends 3 weeks without food

As far what you are talking is without any Refrence and quotation just by saying ... Alhamdolillah he was the beautiful messenger and beloved Messenger of Allah(s.w.t) for more information about life of Prophet refer to my website www.n-islam.com you will get truth not lie what you are saying is a white lie..

anyhow Allah give you hedaya.

Lets know the Hadiths.

Sentence people to be stoned to death (by adultery).

If anyone rap your Mother or Sister what punishment will you give to him?

America is the Country where in one second about 17350 rap took places every day if we logo this Law of islam that he who rap should be sentence to death will the rappest increase , will be the same or it will be Low?
Exactly it will be low because you have Logo the islamic law sentence to day you will think in this 20 s sentence to die believe me i have interact with many non muslims i ask him/her that if any body rappest your mother or sister what will you do they said that i will kill him some said that we will punish every single soul of him.

Sentence people to be whipped (by drinking).

Do you know the drinking is proved by the doctors that it is the bigges deases it is the deases which took life of innocents it is the deases which ruins the family it is the only deases which makes you to accident beside yourself the other innocent people will die etc many examples you can give IF YOU logo this law of Islam no one will drink we will have peace in the word we will have love in the world.

Force the marriage with Bibi Aisha's, dealing with her father (means threating), when she was by the age of 6, consumed (means to have sex with her) when she was by the age of 9. He lived until the age of 52 and she was 18 at the time, so it means when he took her virginity she was 9 and he was already 42 years old. A BIG LIE AGAINST PROPHET MOHAMMAD PEACE BE UPON HIM IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN ANY RELIGION DO NOT BE THE HARMER OF THE RELIGIONS. YOU ARE BIG LIER... ALHAMDOLILLAH WE ARE NOT.

Is it? Or you don't want to face it? Those are lies? Are you sure?

I don't like much to quote garbage... sorry... religion books, since that is a fanatic thing, but I open an exception to you:

THERE WERE NO RAPE CASE, BUT A COUPLE WHO PRACTICED ADULTERY AND WAS REGRETTING IT, MUHAMMAD THE UNMERCIFUL, UNHOLY PROPHET CONDEMN THEM TO DIE

Al-Bukhari Volume 2, Book 23, Number 413:

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Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar :

The Jew brought to the Prophet a man and a woman from amongst them who have committed (adultery) illegal sexual intercourse. He ordered both of them to be stoned (to death), near the place of offering the funeral prayers beside the mosque."

Here you go again on drinking... trying to justify it with doctors. Well, doctors 20 years ago claimed olive oil make cholesterol and should not be consumed, now they say it's "good cholesterol" and should be consumed.
Alcohol, obviously being drunk doesn't seams too healthy, is good for heart and circulation system too.

As you see, unlike your unholy beloved prophet, Medicine is a science that keeps changing.

About Aisha, again from al-Bukhari

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88:

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Narrated 'Ursa:

The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

Actually the father of Aisha wasn't quite convinced with the Nikaah and said to the unholy prophet (m.h.b.s.i.h.) "but we are brothers!" for which the self claimed prophet said "we're brothers on the book"...

And I quite like this where Muhammad tells Muslims to act like sex freaks:

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 67:

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Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! How can we know her permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)."

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If anyone rap your Mother or Sister what punishment will you give to him?

Under Islam? I stone to death my mother or my sister for she provoked the attacker with her female forms as does your fellow Sharia friends where that unholy and senseless law rules... Nice one!

IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN ANY RELIGION DO NOT BE THE HARMER OF THE RELIGIONS

YOUR RELIGION IS A DANGER AND A PERMANENT THREAT TO WORLD'S PEACE AND AS SO MUST BE DESTROYED AND BURIED AT ONCE. IT'S BASED ON NOTHING BUT LIES FROM SIDE TO SIDE.
EVEN IF WE DIDN'T CONVERT TO ISLAM, WE, EUROPEANS, HAD TO GIVE HIGH POWERS TO CATHOLIC CHURCH TO FACE YOUR INVASIONS CENTURIES AGO. MEANS CONVERT OR NOT, ISLAM IS ALWAYS FINDING A WAY TO **** PEOPLE'S LIFE.

Geshtinnanna · 09-21-2007, 01:10 AM

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And I quite like this where Muhammad tells Muslims to act like sex freaks:

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 67:
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Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! How can we know her permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)."

You really can't read you illiterate fool. Where in the hell does it say act like a sex freak. I am tired of your blatant disregard and disrespect for other people's religions. You think you can just spew crap without repercussions?

wais shirzai · 09-21-2007, 04:43 AM

Under Islam? I stone to death my mother or my sister for she provoked the attacker with her female forms as does your fellow Sharia friends where that unholy and senseless law rules... Nice one!

You are not Muslim and you hate this Law you don't implement this law to them !

I ask you which law or rule will you implement on them what punishment will you give to them??? Will you congratulate them? Will you Thanks them for the Work? Or will you tell them you can have this Action again?

SirArthur · 09-21-2007, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Geshtinnanna

You really can't read you illiterate fool. Where in the hell does it say act like a sex freak. I am tired of your blatant disregard and disrespect for other people's religions. You think you can just spew crap without repercussions?

One that claims silence is an affirmation is a freak. So a mute woman can be raped at will, is it?

About respect, Islam is nothing about respect, never was. They KILLED, LOTTED, RAPED and did the most horrible things for the Pagans on the past. What respect did they show to them? They deserve no respect and no, it has no repercussion, there's no Allah and therefore that bestiality that came out of the unholy prophet mind will not be able to punish me, if that is your fear.

And let me guess, your "repercussion" means Muslims to chase me up? Is it? I reply to you like the Swedish, I have to die someday anyway.

And btw, what you call respect I call Appeasement.

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You are not Muslim and you hate this Law you don't implement this law to them !

I ask you which law or rule will you implement on them what punishment will you give to them??? Will you congratulate them? Will you Thanks them for the Work? Or will you tell them you can have this Action again?

Since as you say, and right, I'm not Muslim, if they do such thing I would chase whoever did it. Obviously I wouldn't harm more the victims but the aggressor.

wais shirzai · 09-21-2007, 08:11 AM

First time i heard from a human who said that i will punish him with less harm and you said that i will Chase do you know ? Islam says you have to bring four people for Prove of Rapist. thank you

greywolf90 · 09-21-2007, 08:19 AM

why do you hate islam so much, and say nothing of any other religion? there are always people who commit atrocities regardless of their religion. their beliefs may be their reason for doing all these things, but i doubt they would be any different in another religion. there is no perfect religion, yet you choose to focas all problems on one religion.

SirArthur · 09-21-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wais shirzai

First time i heard from a human who said that i will punish him with less harm and you said that i will Chase do you know ?

What?! I don't understand, what you do you mean?

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Islam says you have to bring four people for Prove of Rapist. thank you

Four people means 8 women since 1 woman witness worth 1/2 of a man.
...well, we use forensics, seams to work far better.

And don't tell me that if your mother appears complaint to be raped you would seek for four witnesses instead of chase right away, or at least call the police on the dirty pig who made such barbarity? You don't trust your mother?

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why do you hate islam so much, and say nothing of any other religion? there are always people who commit atrocities regardless of their religion. their beliefs may be their reason for doing all these things, but i doubt they would be any different in another religion. there is no perfect religion, yet you choose to focas all problems on one religion.

Nobody is focusing all problems on Islam, but while most of other living religions commits atrocities against their own doctrines; eg. Jesus never called to any Crusade on his name or to kill anybody; Islam does it by doctrine, it's their books that says they must kill, they must cast "Crusades" against all infidels. You understand the difference?

This means Islam will never evolute, it's stuck. While one can fight Inquisition for an instance, since it is nowhere in Bible, one can't fight Mujahedins with their books, because IT IS in fact on their books. Islam is AGGRESSION by nature. Like wais shirzai said is "peace by submission".

Turns out then, you want to cut off the atrocities on the name of Christianity, just teach people how to read and write, give them a Bible and they will stop what the Hell they were doing, or at least will not keep saying they are doing it on the name of Jesus.
Now, if you want to cut off atrocities on the name of Muhammad by the same way, people will get even more reckless since they're backed up to do so by the books of Islam.

Therefore, as long as there are Muslims (I mean people following the religion, not Arabs, Muslims are not a race) the restless will continue.

niranjan · 09-22-2007, 04:27 AM

One sad thing about islamic laws in terms of rape is that if the rape victim cannot produce 4 witnesses to show that she was raped, she would then be condemned with adultery and will be stoned.

As a result , many women who were raped would then not at all report their violation as they have a good chance of being further humiliated and even killed by stoning.

Hence for this reason, gang rapes are conducted frequently without any fear of arrest or punishment.

http://www.westernresistance.com/blo...es/003369.html

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Qu...e_adultery.htm

http://leilouta.blogspot.com/2006/09...-pakistan.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/5217424.stm

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...8072&q=stoning

wais shirzai · 09-22-2007, 09:04 AM

I ask you one Question that if we logo this Rule in america that he who Commite Adultry he should be sentence to death!

Will the Rapist

1:Increase

2: Decrease

3:Be the same ?

SirArthur · 09-22-2007, 09:11 AM

Rapists? Probably increase or at least be the same.

Rape is a sign of sex castration or mental disease.

And by killing those who commit adultery, I guess we've to kill all male Muslims, or most of them, since BIGAMY IS ADULTERY and our rule stands for rights and witness power for man and woman to be the same.