Mohammed: The Anti-Christ - Page 3

jaej · 07-08-2007, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by duck

The point being is that intellectually looking at literature is the only way I know how to read. :P

This is what I was saying.

alexie · 07-08-2007, 07:49 PM

Again I say
Knowing what love is and having expereinced it changes the way you read. Love is beyond intellect. How much does love weigh? It is non-material yet it exists. The same with God. You must have more than just intellect to know Him.

alexie

Chapstiquelova · 07-08-2007, 09:18 PM

Alexie I agree God's love and God are both so beautiful we really cannot understand it or comprehend it, because someone loves us with a love so powerful that is un-understandable its amzing and at that a love that we don't deserve.

jaej · 07-09-2007, 11:42 AM

You can't comprehend it or understand it because it doesn't exist. It's entirely a figment of your imagination.

Chapstiquelova · 07-09-2007, 12:55 PM

you can't comprehend it because its so wonderful and beautiful. You can't comprehend it because we as humans are not like it, we can only strove so far.

jaej · 07-09-2007, 01:00 PM

If you didn't believe that, you wouldn't be a christian. That's part of what brainwashing is; the inability to comprehend something different from what you already think.

Chapstiquelova · 07-09-2007, 01:08 PM

strove up there was ment to be strive...and ok i respect your opinion.

Faith · 07-10-2007, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jaej

You can't comprehend it or understand it because it doesn't exist.

If everything is pure chemical, what is imagination? Is imagination only a figment of my imagination? If its a state of mind, how do I have a state of mind from pure chemicals? How do I know that it is wrong to steal? Because I wouldn't want someone to do it to me? Why do I care if someone does it to me, I am a chemically activated machine, what implanted the knowledge into my chemicals that it is wrong to steal? What is stealing, and how is it immoral? Because the material belonged to me? How do my chemicals inform me of this? Why do they? Because my brain took a mental picture of the object and informed my cells, "if someone steals, go and inform the brain." But how do my chemicals know that what I am holding in my hand is mine? Because I payed for it? How do my chemicals imprint this information accordingly, knowing what I have and have not payed for?

Is it a state of mind such as awareness? What 's that? When did chemicals invent awareness and how did they give such ability? When did chemicals decide to invent a seeing eye and create things which would be beautiful for this seeing eye to see? When did they decide "lets make a tongue" and where did they get the knowledge to give it the ability of taste? How did chemicals decide how they themsleves would taste and that they would taste good to this tasting tongue other chemicals decided to invite? What decided to create the ear? Where did the knowledge to make it hear noise come from? What about music? When did sound decide to be? When did sound give certain frequencys of sound delightful for this ear to hear that other chemicals decided to create? How does the brain detect this? Chemicals made it so? What gave these chemicals the ability to decide what is good to hear and what is not to hear?

When did they decide the feeling of touch was needed? Why did they, and where did this knowledge of what touch is come from? When did chemicals ever have the ability to decide? If your decisions are made by chemicals, how can I trust anything you say is true, because your chemicals could be flawed and sending wrong messages to your brain? Who is it you trust when you trust a man? His chemicals, or him himself? If it is his chemicals, who can we trust?

Everything being of chemical reactions is what doesn't make sence.

jaej · 07-10-2007, 09:10 AM

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If everything is pure chemical, what is imagination? Is imagination only a figment of my imagination? If its a state of mind, how do I have a state of mind from pure chemicals? How do I know that it is wrong to steal? Because I wouldn't want someone to do it to me? Why do I care if someone does it to me, I am a chemically activated machine, what implanted the knowledge into my chemicals that it is wrong to steal? What is stealing, and how is it immoral? Because the material belonged to me? How do my chemicals inform me of this? Why do they? Because my brain took a mental picture of the object and informed my cells, "if someone steals, go and inform the brain." But how do my chemicals know that what I am holding in my hand is mine? Because I payed for it? How do my chemicals imprint this information accordingly, knowing what I have and have not payed for?

While it's much more complicated than this, you're actually right for the most part.

Your problem is that you think imagination and awareness are some sort of god-inspired phenomonan, when they are actually just a series of chemical and electrical reactions. Chemicals don't decide, they just act and react. Those actions and reactions are what we call consciousness.

Morality. There is no universal morality. Most of it comes from respect for others and their rights, but it's also influenced largely from society. You, for instance, believe what you believe because you read it in a book. I, on the other hand, act the way I do out of respect for the rights of people, because they have the same rights to life and property and security that you and I do.

Tango · 07-10-2007, 10:51 AM

the biblical prophecy about the antichrist said he would claim to be god. it said he would live in egypt for three years, not break a bone, etc., just as jesus did. you're arguement that mohammed was the antichrist refutes your arguement for biblical accuracy in prophecies.