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07-07-2007, 02:44 PM
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| Alexie the quran also tells us that God breathed his spirit into Adam. Does this mean Adam is God? Of course not. But you did not explain why jesus prayed to God? Why does God need to pray and what was he praying to?
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07-07-2007, 07:41 PM
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| The interpretation that Muhammad was the anti-Christ is entirely flawed in my opinion. First of, there is little to no mention of any anti-Christ in the Bible except in the book of revelations, which most Christians do not take as literal. Second, the world would not have existed for more than a thousand years afterward if he was. Third, there is little to no evidence supporting this that can be given from the other "prophecies" regarding the end of times. On the whole, believe that such speculation is entirely ridiculous and a belief caused by paranoia.
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07-07-2007, 09:14 PM
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| HI sisterx
Notice in your Holy book that God breathed His spirit into Adam. Another translation may be the breath of life. Notice also that God sends a Spirit from HImself to us(Jesus). Adam is clay first and then God breaths. Jesus is spirit born foirst and then comes into the flesh. Two very different births. The Holy Spirit too is born of Spirit but has had no flesh birth as Jesus did.
When Jesus prayed to His Father He did so as a human. How else could He show a servant attitude unless he did so Himself?
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07-07-2007, 10:06 PM
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| I never claimed Jesus didn't exist. And the amount of manuscripts makes no difference to me, since it's the content that is flawed. Quote: |
The early accounts of Jesus supports the faith we have in Christ.
| Duh.
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07-07-2007, 10:14 PM
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| Hi Jaej
I did not claim that you think Jesus did not exist. I meant only He is the Jesus in the Bible not the one you think He is.
The only flaw is the lack of understanding you have in the Bible. The other problem for you is that you only read at an intellectual level. God gives revelation to Christians with Faith. He gives them insights that only those with the Holy Spirit can know. If you want to delve deeper you must give over to Jesus and allow revelation to come in.
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07-07-2007, 10:25 PM
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The other problem for you is that you only read at an intellectual level. God gives revelation to Christians with Faith. He gives them insights that only those with the Holy Spirit can know. If you want to delve deeper you must give over to Jesus and allow revelation to come in.
| Is that so? Well then, during the nine years I was a christian god did an awfully ****ty job of revealing stuff to me through the holy spirit.
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07-07-2007, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sisterX Alexie the quran also tells us that God breathed his spirit into Adam. Does this mean Adam is God? Of course not. But you did not explain why jesus prayed to God? Why does God need to pray and what was he praying to? | Sister I can see what ya saying so im gonna try to explain it to ya:
Jesus took on the Role of MAN .....being a HUMAN, WE are to pray and also Jesus wanted to stay in touch with his daddy , God the Father of the trinity. Jesus also Taught us how to pray.... Prayer before meals, prayer when fasting , prayer for just about everything.    
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07-07-2007, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jaej Is that so? Well then, during the nine years I was a christian god did an awfully ****ty job of revealing stuff to me through the holy spirit. | And if that were the case, I'd much rather live in Middle Earth.
Sorry, Jaej, just couldn't resist that one. Narnia wouldn't be bad either.
The point being is that intellectually looking at literature is the only way I know how to read. :P |
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07-08-2007, 05:55 AM
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| Hi Jaej
I do not know your Holy Spirit expereinces or lack thereof.
I can only go by the people I know. There are many who do not know or feel or had revelation from the Holy Spirit. When talking to these people there are some things missing like a daily prayer life, daily Bible reading or they are just plain young in thier faith. Being young is not about years but about maturity and this may or may not coincide with years as a Christian. The other problem is sin in thier lives. This will and does stunt your spiritual growth.
If you only study the Bible at an intellectual level then you will miss out on revelation.. This does not mean that we disregard intellect completly of course. read Corinthians 1:23, Timothy 2:5 and Galations 1:7-12.
The best verse is John 16:12-15. It basically says without revelation(knowledge some Bibles say) we perish spiritually. Revelation opens up a new insight and reality of living, possibilities and faith.
Its similar to reading about Love without expereincing it. Once one has had the reality of love reading about it changes it completely.
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07-08-2007, 07:45 AM
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| Yeah I also people who have claimed to have known what god wanted, or even claimed he told them what to do. They are called crazy, and are in asylums where they belong.
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