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Old 09-09-2006, 10:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default The most important questions!

well in this topic you will clear 3 most important question with the answers.

There was a young man who went overseas to study for quite a long time. When he returned, he asked his parents to find him a religious scholar or any
expert who could answer his 3 Questions. Finally, his parents were able to
find a Muslim scholar.

Young man: Who are you? Can you answer my questions?

Scholar: I am one of Allah (SubHana Wa Ta`ala )'s slaves and Insha-Allah
(God willing), I will be able to answer your questions.

Young man: Are you sure? A lot of Professors and experts were not able to
answer my questions.

Scholar: I will try my best, with the help of Allah(SubHana Wa Ta`ala).

Young Man: I have 3 questions:

1. Does God exist? If so, show me His shape.

2. What is thaqdir (fate)?

3. If shaitan (Devil) was created from the fire, why at the end he will be
thrown to hell that is also created from fire. It certainly will not hurt
him at all, since Shaitan (Devil) and the hell were created from fire. Did
God not think of it this far?

Suddenly, the Scholar slapped the young man's face very hard.

Young Man (feeling pain): Why do you get angry at me?

Scholar: I am not angry. The slap is my answer to your three questions.

Young Man: I really don't understand.

Scholar: How do you feel after I slapped you?

Young Man: Of course, I felt the pain.

Scholar: So do you believe that pain exists?

Young Man: Yes.

Scholar: Show me the shape of the pain!

Young Man: I cannot.

Scholar: That is my first answer. All of us feel God's existence without
being able to see His shape... Last night, did you dream that you will be
slapped by me?

Young Man: No.

Scholar: Did you ever think that you will get a slap from me, today?

Young Man: No.

Scholar: That is takdir (fate) my second answer........ My hand that I used
to slap you, what is it created from?

Young Man: It is created from flesh.

Scholar: How about your face, what is it created from?

Young Man: Flesh.

Scholar: How do you feel after I slapped you?

Young Man: In pain.

Scholar: Thats it. this is my third answer, Even though Shaitan (Devil) and
also the hell were created from the fire, if Allah wants, insha-Allah (God
willing), the hell will become a very painful place for Shaitan

*The scholar was Imam Abu Hanifa (Rahmatulla Alai) and the man, was supposedly a famous jewish scholar of that time and after this incident it was said he became Muslim.

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That's about the most ridiculous attempt at explaining the existance of a diety I have ever read. Congratulations.
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Old 09-12-2006, 07:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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A little faulty... lol

Its coherent though.
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That's about the most ridiculous attempt at explaining the existance of a diety I have ever read. Congratulations.
hey now, dont insult him.
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And you already know how this will end...."
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This story...an interesting way to go about it. Not complete, but I'm sure that's not what you were after.
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Old 09-13-2006, 09:38 AM   #6 (permalink)
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That's about the most ridiculous attempt at explaining the existance of a diety I have ever read. Congratulations.
Aside from the fact that you mispelled deity which made it kinda funny, that wasn't too nice

I need to go on one of those diety things so I can lose weight
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Haha! Isn't mocking people fun? Now soembody mock me...
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Some time giving Answer to Questions. You need to check the nature of that Person, and answer to that person according to his nature . And Imam Abu Hanifa (Rahmatulla Alai) was and will be a great Scholar. Allah give him High position in Haven.

God Bless you All.
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Here's another story like the one above, just with salt instead of a slap - doesn't make God real though. I heard it when I used to go to church.

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I sat on a plane next to a professed atheist who pressed his disbelief in God so urgently that I bore my testimony to him. “You are wrong,” I said, “there is a God. I know He lives!”

He protested, “You don’t know. Nobody knows that! You can’t know it!” When I would not yield, the atheist, who was an attorney, asked perhaps the ultimate question on the subject of testimony. “All right,” he said in a sneering, condescending way, “you say you know. Tell me how you know.”

When I attempted to answer, even though I held advanced academic degrees, I was helpless to communicate.

When I used the words Spirit and witness, the atheist responded, “I don’t know what you are talking about.” The words prayer, discernment, and faith, were equally meaningless to him. “You see,” he said, “you don’t really know. If you did, you would be able to tell me how you know.”

...an idea came into my mind and I said to the atheist, “Let me ask if you know what salt tastes like.”

“Of course I do,” was his reply.

“When did you taste salt last?”

“I just had dinner on the plane.”

“You just think you know what salt tastes like,” I said.

He insisted, “I know what salt tastes like as well as I know anything.”

“If I gave you a cup of salt and a cup of sugar and let you taste them both, could you tell the salt from the sugar?”

“Now you are getting juvenile,” was his reply. “Of course I could tell the difference. I know what salt tastes like. It is an everyday experience—I know it as well as I know anything.”

“Then,” I said, “assuming that I have never tasted salt, explain to me just what it tastes like.”

After some thought, he ventured, “Well-I-uh, it is not sweet and it is not sour.”

“You’ve told me what it isn’t, not what it is.”

After several attempts, of course, he could not do it. He could not convey, in words alone, so ordinary an experience as tasting salt. I bore testimony to him once again and said, “I know there is a God. You ridiculed that testimony and said that if I did know, I would be able to tell you exactly how I know. My friend, spiritually speaking, I have tasted salt. I am no more able to convey to you in words how this knowledge has come than you are to tell me what salt tastes like. But I say to you again, there is a God! He does live! And just because you don’t know, don’t try to tell me that I don’t know, for I do!”

As we parted, I heard him mutter, “I don’t need your religion for a crutch! I don’t need it.”
The thing with stories like this is that the person who is trying to explain salt and and go get some and have the person taste it for themselves. It is not the same with God - I've been in meetings where I have thought I "felt God" and the person next to me felt nothing and I've been in situations where others are obviously "feeling God" and I am not - there seems to be no reliable way of "knowing" God - there is a reliable way of "knowing" the taste of salt - salt is real and tangible - God may or may not be real, but he/she/it is not tangible.
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will i just noticed that all the non-muslim users of this forum are making fun of religion so i request you all to be polite and honest .

if you dont believe it so ask your questions i wil try my best to answer you but dont make fun as i dont making fun of any religion i respect all religion just coz it comes in our holy book .
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