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Old 08-07-2007, 06:14 AM   #31 (permalink)
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For example,"I do not say it lacks a beginning. I say that the notion of "Before" the beginning is gibberish" So now the universe has a beginning but the rest is gibberish. Do you believe that the universe camer from nothing? If so then this goes against what we know so far that anything created has a cause. But back to the universe. Did the universe come from nothing??
I understand that you don't comprehend what I'm saying. It take some studying. I recommend stephen hawking's "Illustrated Brief History of Time"... It does a much better job explaining much of this with cool pictures.

I'll say it again. Given what we know about the way the universe behaves, saying "before the big bang" is a gibberish statement. I am using the term gibberish appropriately. I do not say the universe came from nothing. I'm saying that the universe appears to not have come from nothing or something. It appears to not have "come from" at all given the fact that time has no meaning at a singularity.

There are details of high energy gravitation and particles that we don't understand (i.e. plank time scales). But saying that the universe must be caused or that it "came from" something is not necessarily a valid statement.

That is a follow up of why you are incorrect. It's a repetition of what I have been saying.
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