Chapstiquelova

Thanks!!!!
LOL, See I dont believe we get to heaven through works.
I just Believe we have to accept Jesus christ as our savior.
I waz Just curious what Islam taught.
Thanks u have been a Huge help to understanding the muslim faith!
Christianity and Islam are very simular yet Extremely different.
We Both Veiw God as Great and mighty, but we veiw Jesus Different.
Christianity is more so based on what Jesus taught us while he was on earth, Rather than him coming back and what will happen then.
I believe in the rapture, Though, But i believe Jesus has fulfilled his lifetime here on earth, and that he died on the cross, and then 3 days later Bam he was alive!
LOL i like adding drama like BAM BAM BAM (Emeril the chef)
P.S and as u can see i have never read the Quran B4 so im a junior LOL.
I look forward to it, I actually think i'll read some of it now
LOL
Oh and I have another question LOL, and thank u for being patient!
Mary, Was she just a person or is she a greatly reconized person?
Christians admire her, But that is about it. We dont worship her or pray to her.
Catholism (if i spelled it rightlol) Prays to mary, and i was just curious if Muslims, prayed to her, Or really reconized her.

sisterX

Hey its cool

Nah we dont pray to anyone but God, not even our beloved prophet Muhammed. Mary is considered to be one of the Greatest women who ever walked on earth. And she was the mother of one of the best men who ever walked the earth. So thats pretty special.
I have so much to say but it's pretty late so I'll be back tommorow.

CHEERIO!

mezzen

You have to separate the idea of citizen and state. A citizen cannot go around intentionally killing whoever s/he wants, that's anarchy. The actions of 9/11 were those of individual citizens and not of any state policy.

In the Islamic state, as with any nation, only the state has the authority to kill, but it cannot murder an innocent person, whether Muslim or not. The only situations are when the state is resisting an enemy that is trying to destroy them, or in order to fight oppression, or to punish a citizen with death for a major crime. The "killing" verses in the Qur'an are just this. Simply being a non-Muslim is not a state crime according to the Qur'an, "Let their be no compulsion." Even ignoring the moral aspects, Islam is a proselytizing religion, as it regards all non-Muslims as possible future Muslims, therefore it would be illogical to kill them for what they are.

The prophecies do relate to a unified state of Muslims at war with other group(s), but no-one knows who the others are, nor when it will happen. Of course, you will hear some say that the time is now and it's the Americans but that would be speculation.

As you point out, it sounds like a lot of killing but the crime of the "other" group would have to be something other than simply being non-Muslim. To suggest that the Islamic state just decides to attack the others first for no reason is speculation. One could easily speculate the opposite, perhaps the other group is the aggressor and the Islamic state simply fights back. One cannot presume the aforementioned Islamic state will be the most oppressive, aggressive regime in the world; it is equally conceivable that a new Hitler takes control of a powerful Western/Oriental nation and starts colonizing all other nations. The Islamic state would be justified in its resistance. However, if the Muslim state was an oppressive one, then it could not be the one in the prophecy.

Chapstiquelova

I wasnt sayin they were killing just to kill, I was saying are they killing becuz most americans are not muslim. SisterX Nicely corrected me.
Thank u for clearing that to.
Yeh the situation was kinda like hitler, except not nearly as bad, atleast not here(america). I was just asking up there, if it was kinda like hitler Except, that it was part of Islam. But SisterX cleared that up.
And so did u now LOL.
See The muslims i have seen on tv or the muslims people i know have met have not been rude. One actually visited my church once, and she was a lovable person. But it is very confusing to know rather, people are just "killing" and they happen to be muslims, or if they were killing becuz they were muslims.
But What I have witnessed has been good.
But also 9/11 makes u think. I'm sure i am not the only non-muslim american who thought that, Becuz if we have never met one in person, or have never been friends with someone of that faith, it kinda stereo types Islam.
There is way tooo Much stereo typing in america and the world today but to those that knew nothing bout Islam l(like me*lol*) would just Think that all muslims were like this. But it didnt seem accurate, so i asked.
LOL
Well Ive talked enough I might be boring u by Now LOL
Thanks again

sisterX

Oh chap I gotta correct myself, I gave you the wrong Chapter on the verse about Jesus it is actually Chapter Al Imran (chapter three) not Chapter Maryam!
By the way Chap In the gospel according st John it says:
Moses stated that God told him "I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers: I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him, If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account." (Deuteronomy 18:18-19)

Who do Christians believe this prophet is? Since you believe Jesus to be the last messenger, who was Moses talking about that would be like Moses?
He says that this prophet will come out of the brothers of the Israelites, ie the Ishmaelites (the Arabs). And that he will speak God's words from his own mouth (Muhammed was illiterate but he recited the beautiful Quran to the people).

I would say that this prophet is Muhammed since he was like Moses in the sence that they were both given extensive laws and codes of life (the Ten commandments and Quran) they were both given victory in miraculous ways, they both migrated following conspiracies to assasinate them, they both a natural birth, family life and both died.

He came from the brothers of the israelites who were the brothers of the ishmaelites because, Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac, Ishmael became the grandfather of the Arab nation whereas Isaac became the grandfather of the Jewish nation.

What is the Christian opinion about these verses in the Bible?

lauraclay

Chap, I don't know anyone who would just assume that all Muslims are violent just because of 9/11.

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and when the fish are caught, the trap is forgotten.

The purpose of a rabbit snare is to catch rabbits.
When the rabbits are caught, the snare is forgotten.

The purpose of words is to convey ideas.
When the ideas are grasped, the words are forgotten.

Where can I find a man who has forgotten words?
He is the one I would like to talk to.

Chapstiquelova

i do!
LOL
but its all straightened out now, so all is good.

jaej

I can also think of several people. I think you underestimate people's intolerance and ignorance.

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lauraclay

Remember AP US last year? Remember how it was two people's racism vs a class full of people who didn't think the same?

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The purpose of a fish trap is to catch fish,
and when the fish are caught, the trap is forgotten.

The purpose of a rabbit snare is to catch rabbits.
When the rabbits are caught, the snare is forgotten.

The purpose of words is to convey ideas.
When the ideas are grasped, the words are forgotten.

Where can I find a man who has forgotten words?
He is the one I would like to talk to.

jaej

That's completely irrelevant and completely pointless. If you want to jeer at me for what I used to be, do it in rl.

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