Originally Posted by mezzen

The Qur'an denies the divinity of Jesus and verses are directed at the Christians asking them not to deify him, "Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son." As in Christianity, the Qur'an tells of the Annunication and the Virgin Birth. It acknowledges Jesus' prophethood and the status as a Messenger of Allah by bringing the Gospel, just as Muhammad brought the Qur'an. Something not mentioned in Christianity is the ability of Jesus, according to the Qur'an, to speak as a baby, "I am indeed a servant of Allah: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet; And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live; (He) hath made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable; So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"! The 'raised up to life' is of course interpreted as the resurrection of all humans for the Day of Judgement. However, several miracles in common with Christianity are mentioned, "And I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I quicken the dead, by Allah's leave." The Qur'an mentions that Jesus prophecized Muhammad and the people persecuted him because of this, and it states that Jesus avoided death on the cross, instead, he was 'raised up' to Allah.

The Qur'an doesn't explicitly state the return of Jesus, although one verse is sometimes interpreted to mean he will return during the End Times. However a multitude of hadith (reported sayings of the Prophet Muhammad) do describe Jesus and his return. Both his description and purpose are given in hadith, When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine and abolish jizyah. Allah will cause all religions except Islam to perish. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him. Some hadith state he will appear near a mosque in Damascus. Breaking the cross is usually taken to mean that he will denounce or illegalise the Christian belief. The Dajjal (Antichrist) is also called Messiah in the same way as Jesus, meaning that they are marked by Allah. Two of Dajjal's power are that he will be able to cause rain to cease or fall and bring people back to life, however Jesus will have the power to kill the Dajjal.

The first major sign of the End Times is the appearance of the Dajjal and hadith say that every Prophet since Adam has warned his people of the coming of the Dajjal. The Dajjal will be the most evil of people to have ever existed and will spread disbelief throughout the world and finally claim himself to be God. Few Muslims will be able to confront him face-to-face and remain as believers, and other Muslims will resist the Dajjal's armies under the leadership of Imam Mahdi (who will have earlier united either the Arabs or the Muslims). Jesus will be sent at this time in order to kill the Dajjal since the Muslims will have no power to do so. Jesus will cause the Dajjal's armies to perish and the Dajjal himself will be speared by Jesus at Lydda. The remainder of the armies will be hunted down and killed until there is no more disbelief. Jesus is then a just ruler of the Earth for 40 years until his death after which disbelief will eventually return until there is no belief, resulting in the final major sign, the rise of the Sun from the West, the end of life and the start of the Day of Judgment.

Originally Posted by sisterX

Hi guys great thread!
Anjel when looking at a religion we must first separate the religion from its followers, for Islam has been perfected by Allah and muslims have not been created perfect so some will follow and others will stray. If you want to see an example of a perfect muslim look at the life of Muhammed.
Human being will always stray from the perfect path Allah has given us there is no doubt about that.
Allah has not created us to be perfect nor does He expect us to obey him like the angels do, without making mistakes, for the angels have not been created with free will and we have. What He expects from us is that we seek his mercy and forgiveness when we DO err and that is the essence of worship in Islam.
Muhammed has been sent to whole of mankind. And Allah has promised to preserve Islam, for example not one letter of the Quran has been changed whereas the Bible has over 2000 different versions. There is also a great reward offered in memorising the whole Quran so no mater how many of the texts are burnt or destroyed there will always be people who have the quran in their hearts.
Jesus never said he was the son of God nor did he asked to be worshiped but people distorted the truth after his ascention to Heaven.

Originally Posted by sisterX

Wow An-jel how many Muslims have put a gun to your head so far?
If anybody wants to mind-f**k you An-jel its the biased media of today, which most people rely on for most or all of their information.
Free your mind! Broaden your horizon! But most importantly do not judge Islam by what it's followers do, whether it be on 9/11 (dont get me started on that) or any other event.

Chapstikelova, you sound like another one who has been relying on the biased media for your information.
It is a SIN in Islam to kill an innocent person, it is prohibited! What those people did on 9/11 is not justified any in any way. But how did the "democratic" "civilised" nation of America respond? By killing milions more innocent people.
Not only is senseless murder prohibited in Islam but so is suicide.
"...if any one killed a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed the whole of makind: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole of mankind...(Noble Quran 5:32)"

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"

"God commands justice, the doing of the good, and liberality to kith and kin. He forbids all shameful deeds, injustice and rebellion. Thus does he instruct you, that you may receive admonition." 16:90

"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of male and female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know and cooperate with one another." 49:13

"...approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If Allah had pleased, he could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: Therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (Guarantees of) peace, then Allah hath opened no way for you (to war against them)." Holy Qu'ran 4:90
"If they resort to peace, so shall you, and put your trust in GOD. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient." holy quran 8:61

"You shall resort to pardon, advocate tolerance, and disregard the ignorant." holy quran 7:199
It is thus clear that the Muslims were allowed to fight only in self-defense, to preserve their national existence, and they were forbidden to be the aggressors.

And about suicide:

"You shall spend in the cause of GOD; do not throw yourselves with your own hands into destruction. You shall be charitable; GOD loves the charitable." Holy Quran 2:195
"O you who believe, do not consume each others' properties illicitly - only mutually acceptable transactions are permitted. You shall not kill yourselves. GOD is Merciful towards you." holy quran 4:29

Hope that was helpful Chapstiquelova.

Originally Posted by sisterX

Well Chap (do you mind if call you Chap?)

Islam is the Arabic word for Islam is 'surrender' and a muslim is someone who surrenders to the will of God and follows His commands.
Islam is not only a religion but a complete way of life.
As muslims we believe That God (Allah in arabic) is One and Almighty.
He is our Lord.
He has created us and everything that is in the earth and the heavens.
He has no partner.
He has no mother or father , son or daughter.
He is Eternal.
There is nothing like Him.
He knows everything.
He sees everthing.
He hears everything.
Nothing is hidden from Him.
He is Kind and Loving.
He is Gracious and Merciful.
He is Clement and Forgiving.
He is the One Who provides each and every one of His creation with the means to survive.
Muslims should turn only to Him for Help in times of nee and sadness.
He is the only One worthy of worship.
Nothing else should be worshipped but He.

There are a few articles of faith in Islam and one of them is to believe in God's prophets and messengers. So if one does not believe in them he is not classed as a muslim.
Some famous prophets are, Adam, Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Moses, Jesus and finally Muhammed.

Jesus being one of the greatest messengers of God is loved and respected greatly by all muslims. The Quran confirms his virgin birth and a chapter in the Quran is titled 'Mary'.
Jesus was born miraculously by the command of God, without a father just as Adam did not have a father.
We believe that Jesus was not crucified but raised up to the heavens, he is alive and will be back to complete his mission.

Chap, if you are asking me if I believe you will go to paradise of hell? I can only say God knows I have no knowlege of that.
But I can tell you one thing for sure and that is, Jesus, the son of mary was only a man, I do not believe he either died anyone's sins nor will he be able to save anybody from their sins.

Originally Posted by sisterX

Wow An-jel how many Muslims have put a gun to your head so far?
If anybody wants to mind-f**k you An-jel its the biased media of today, which most people rely on for most or all of their information.
Free your mind! Broaden your horizon! But most importantly do not judge Islam by what it's followers do, whether it be on 9/11 (dont get me started on that) or any other event.

Originally Posted by sisterX

Chap lol so sweet.
Read the chapter entitled 'MARY' but make sure you get a Quran with explanaition of everything it can be a bit hard to understand for a non-muslim.
Cahp God tells us that every soul will taste death and since jesus never died bu was raised up he will also die. So he will come back as the messiah, defeat the antichrist (the false messiah) and will marry have kids then eventually die. It is by the will of God that he was raised up and he will retaurn by the will of God. I know it seems far fetched but so was his virgin birth!

An-jel yes I know what you mean. Lets just say there are very few good (even adequate) examples of muslims today.
I put it to you that you dont even judge Islam by the cultures of the muslims but by the religion. Put simply, dont judge a religion by its followers but judge it by its scriptures.
A smart man diagnosed with a disease would not put his life in the hands of anyone calling himself a Doctor but will read up on the disease and it's remedy and he will go to a good Doctor with qualificatins specialising in curing him.
What I'm saying is if you really want to know about a religion whether it be Islam chritianity judaism etc, read a Quran or a Bible of Torah, and ask a scholar of that religion the for the answers to your questions.