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Old 12-19-2007, 12:55 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I will reserve my opinion of Robert Spencer to another post.

As for the article I really have two simple points I'd like to mention.

1. I don't agree with the following assumption:

Iran=Muslim country therefor Rules of Iran=Rules of Islam

I'll let you think about that for a moment.

2. The article tries over and over again to establish the fact that according to Islam homosexual sex is wrong. It shows many evidence for this from the source of Islamic law.

And the article is absolutely right. In Islam we say that homosexual sex is wrong. And while I'm at it we also say sex outside marriage is wrong.

I must say I am finally happy someone has claimed something about Islam, and was correct.

Yes, again, we say homosexual sex is wrong.
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Old 12-19-2007, 01:18 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Thanks for the answer
I have a few more questions for you but it is late and I would like to pick this up later unless you don't want to

As for your video

I watched about a 1/4 of it
I will have to find some time to finish it as I did not realize that it would be that long
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:55 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I don't know if you had chance to read this thread..... I'd be interested in your thoughts on the British Doumentary that Lecter posted.
thanks
OK, I watched it and it wasn't to bad. I don't really know how to comment on this . A few things I think are odd is that my perception of Heaven is a Spirtual plane so I do not understand how Jesus could be living up there.
Also why is there a grave for Jesus next to Mohamid? Why wouldnt God take Mohamid up instead of leaving him in the ground? Why would God Take Jesus Up to return him into the ground after Judgement day when everyone is wiped out? Another point was why are Muslims getting all worked up about Jesus being the son of God? Isn't it understood in Religions that everyone is sons and Daughters of God? or I should say a rule of thumb if that makes sense
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Old 12-20-2007, 04:22 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Also why is there a grave for Jesus next to Mohamid? Why wouldnt God take Mohamid up instead of leaving him in the ground?
Because according to Islam both of them and every other prophet for that matter is only a human being. And all of us die, right?

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No, you misunderstood. Jesus Christ is one of the signs that will happen before Judgment day. For example he's supposed to stay here for 40 years before he dies.

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Nope, we don't believe we are the sons and daughters of god, nor that we are created in his image. We are the creation of god.

But the Jews and the Christians say, "We are the children of Allah and His beloved." Say, "Then why does He punish you for your sins?" Rather, you are human beings from among those He has created. He forgives whom He wills, and He punishes whom He wills. And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them, and to Him is the [final] destination. [5:18]

And it's not a matter of getting all worked up about, it's just what we believe. No problem there
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I don't know
The Christian version seems more straight forward than the Muslim version
I don't see why God would switch the bodies before the Crucifiction

What does any God care about the Physical body when there is an eternal reward

One of the things I like about Christianity is that it is about letting go
I do not see that With Islam it would seem that there is a hold on the physical body

But I don't know, I guess that is why I try to learn about other things
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I don't see why God would switch the bodies before the Crucifiction
Islam doesn't say the bodies were switched. It only says they neither killed nor crucified Jesus. And that it only appeared to them as if that happened.
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Yes they did in the video
They say that Judas was switched for Jesus
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Yes they did in the video
They say that Judas was switched for Jesus
They are tossing out ideas of what could have happened. If you notice they mentioned two possibilities.

Just so you understand what I am trying to say. The Qur'an does not say they were switched, it just says that they neither killed him nor crucified him, like I told you before.

The rest if open for interpretation.
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We are talking about the Documentary not the Quran aint we?
I have not read the Quran bit I did see the documentary
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I don't see why God would switch the bodies before the Crucifiction
Islam doesn't say the bodies were switched. It only says they neither killed nor crucified Jesus. And that it only appeared to them as if that happened.
so was it like an Elijah thing, where he is simply taken into heaven without dying?
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